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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 3, 2023, at 5:03 PM, Profo Rubens Almeida <rubens.escritadesinais@GMAIL.COM> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4">Hello Steve!<br>Many thanks for your guidance!<br>I would like to get registered. I look forward to the opening of registration on the site.<br>It's good that we will have plenty of time to prepare.<br>Hug to everyone!</font><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em seg., 3 de jul. de 2023 às 10:50, Steve Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    Hi Rubens,<br>
    <br>
    I'm glad you like the idea and are willing to participate.<br>
    <br>
    About language, I was thinking your language, your country. 
    Although, if you want to present in English, that would be fine.
    Depends who you are targeting with your presentation.  <br>
    <br>
    Presenters will register by country, signed language, spoken
    language, and subtrack.  They will be assigned alphabetic letters
    starting at "a".  Presenters can register multiple times.<br>
    <br>
    So for you, you could register for Brazil with Libras and Portuguese
    or ASL and English for the Teachers subtrack.<br>
    <br>
    * br - Brazil<br>
    * bzs - Libras<br>
    * pt - Portuguese<br>
    * ase - ASL<br>
    * en - English<br>
    * ii - Subtrack 2 - Teachers<br>
    <br>
    We will communicate by email or whats app, and I will send you your
    official registrations of br-bzs-pt-ii-c (because two people
    registered before you) and br-ase-en-ii-a (because you are the
    first).<br>
    <br>
    Each registered presenter can have multiple presentations. Each
    presentation will add a number to the presenter's registration like
    br-bzs-pt-ii-a-1.<br>
    <br>
    Each presentation will have meta data and one or more of the
    following:<br>
    * cover image<br>
    * URL<br>
    * video, 5 to 30 minutes<br>
    * zip file of organized presentation material<br>
    <br>
    If you want to appear on the website, registration will be open
    soon.  If you want to zoom during the symposium, we can set up a
    time.  For an English zoom conversation, we can ask Val if she'd
    like to attend.  For a sign language conversation, I'd have to ask
    Adam Frost if he's available to attend during that week or some
    other time.  <br>
    <br>
    We have a year to prepare.  My weekend SignWriting office hours will
    be full.<br>
    * SignWriting Symposium 2024 organization<br>
    * Sutton-SignWriting.io website rewrite<br>
    * Sutton SignWriting Web Components<br>
    * Amazon Web Services infrastructure<br>
    <br>
    Sounds exciting,<br>
    -Steve<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 7/2/23 10:18 PM, Profo Rubens
      Almeida wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif">Hello
          everybody!<br>
          Wow!<br>
          What a wonderful new!<br>
          I look forward to participating in this event.<br>
          The dates are excellent for the Brazilian community.<br>
          One question, should the presentation of the video be in
          English? Should it be accessible in ASL? What are the
          guidelines in this regard?<br>
          Thank you very much for everyone's attention!<br>
          Hugs!</font><br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em dom., 2 de jul. de 2023 às
          20:20, Steve Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" target="_blank">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>>
          escreveu:<br>
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          <div> Hi Amit,<br>
            <br>
            Yeah, probably fully remote.  I'm not opposed to an actual
            event, but the amount of effort and expense is an issue.<br>
            <br>
            That being said, if it's possible to have a real world
            event, I would be thrilled.<br>
            <br>
            -Steve<br>
            <br>
            <div>On 7/2/23 5:05 PM, Amit Moryossef wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">I think this is a lovely idea, and the
                should be generally ok.
                <div>Zoom only (fully remote) sounds like what you are
                  suggesting. Is there any interest in an
                  in-person meeting + zoom?</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Amit</div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at
                  12:14 AM Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div>SignWriting List
                    <div>July 2, 2023</div>
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                    <div>The tentative dates of <span style="">July 15-18, 2024, for
                        the SignWriting Symposium 2024, seem like good
                        dates because there are no religious holidays at
                        that time. I just checked and Ramadan and other
                        religious holidays seem to be in March and April
                        or at other months but not those dates -</span></div>
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                      </span></div>
                    <div><span style="">How is </span><span style="">July 15-18, 2024 for
                        all of you?</span></div>
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                          <div>On Jul 2, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Steve
                            Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" target="_blank">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>>
                            wrote:</div>
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                            <div> Hi Jonathan and SW-List,<br>
                              <br>
                              I'm still in the early stages of deciding
                              dates and formats.  I'm open to
                              suggetions.  I know my part will be on
                              Zoom and video releases on youtube.  The <a href="http://sutton-signwriting.io/" target="_blank">sutton-signwriting.io</a>
                              website will coordinate the event(s) when
                              it's ready.<br>
                              <br>
                              Tentatively, July 15-18, 2024, I will be
                              scheduling zoom meetings with presenters
                              and contributors.  If anyone wants to have
                              an event that same week, I'd be happy to
                              appear at their event via zoom or other
                              platform to discuss and share.<br>
                              <br>
                              I am still working on the website rewrite,
                              but the symposium idea has helped tie it
                              together.  I will have the first rewrite
                              available soon with email and whats app
                              integration.  After that, I'll continue
                              work on the Amazon Web Services platform
                              rewrite.  <br>
                              <br>
                              All SignWriting related information is
                              welcome and can be submitted to the
                              SignWriting Symposium 2024 and/or to the
                              Sutton-SignWriting.io website.<br>
                              <br>
                              Work in progress,<br>
                              -Steve<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <div>On 7/2/23 2:24 PM, Jonathan Duncan
                                wrote:<br>
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                              <blockquote type="cite"><p>Hi Steve, <br>
                                </p><p>    It will be a very interesting
                                  symposium.  Have you decided on any
                                  dates yet?<br>
                                </p>
                                <div>On 7/2/2023 12:35 PM, Steve
                                  Slevinski wrote:<br>
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                                <blockquote type="cite"> Hi SignWriting
                                  list at <a href="http://linguistlist.org/" target="_blank">linguistlist.org</a>,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Now that I'm posting to the right
                                  list...<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <font size="4"><b>Announcing:
                                      SignWriting Symposium 2024!<br>
                                    </b></font><b>Details to follow on <a href="http://sutton-signwriting.io/" target="_blank">sutton-signwriting.io</a></b><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <font size="4"><b>Four tracks</b></font>:
                                  <br>
                                  <blockquote>1) Growth<br>
                                    2) Technology<br>
                                    3) Data<br>
                                    4) Platforms<br>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <br>
                                  <font size="5"><b>Fifteen subtracks</b></font>:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <font size="4"><b>Growth:<br>
                                    </b></font>
                                  <blockquote><font size="4"><b>i.
                                        Students</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>ii. Teachers</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>iii. Writers</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>iv. Researchers</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>v. Other</b></font><br>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <font size="4"><b>Technology:<br>
                                    </b></font>
                                  <blockquote><font size="4"><b>vi.
                                        Fonts</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>vii. Software</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>viii. Machine
                                        Learning/AI</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>ix. Other</b></font><br>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <font size="4"><b>Data:<br>
                                    </b></font>
                                  <blockquote><font size="4"><b>x.
                                        Character Encodings</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>xi. Schemas</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>xii. Datasets</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>xiii. Other</b></font><br>
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                                  <font size="4"><b>Platforms:<br>
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                                  <blockquote><font size="4"><b>xiv.
                                        Sutton SignWriting Resources</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>xv. Wikimedia</b></font><br>
                                    <font size="4"><b>xvi. Other</b></font><br>
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                                  <font size="5"><b>Your Contribution,
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                                  <blockquote><font size="4"><b>Applications</b></font>:
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                                    <font size="4"><b>Vision for the
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                                    <font size="4"><b>Research Potential</b></font>:
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                                    <font size="4"><b>Alternative
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