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Hi Jonathan,<br>
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Neat idea to use Chat GPT with the SignWriting List archive.<br>
<br>
It was nice to see my excitement about the @sutton-signwriting/core
package. Since it's release, this package has been downloaded over
28 thousand times from NPM.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/23 9:52 PM, Jonathan Duncan
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Val, Chatting with the emails of 2020 and 2021</p>
<p>What were the main topics that year?</p>
<p>Based on the provided past discussions, the main topics in that
year revolved around the following:<br>
<br>
1. The history and process of creating the SignWriter Newspaper:
The conversations touched on the methodology used in producing
the newspaper before the age of personal computers - using hand
written ink on paper attached to boards, the use of a
typesetting machine and graphical designing for the headlines,
followed by photographing and printing.<br>
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2. The role of the printing company: The contributions of a
printing company in Irvine, California, were highlighted. They
donated the costs of printing 11,000 copies every three months
for 4 years, and also aided with addressing labels on newspapers
for distribution.<br>
<br>
3. Fundraising via a non-profit organization: A non-profit
organization was instrumental in raising funds needed to cover
the postage costs for the wide distribution of the newspaper.<br>
<br>
4. Challenges and improvements in infrastructure: It was
mentioned that their current infrastructure and websites
required major work, but were hampered by minimal resources. The
audience was urged to anticipate improvements over time.<br>
<br>
5. Technological evolution of SignWriting: The discussions
touched on the complex history and technological progression of
SignWriting. The creator recounted his journey of continually
rebuilding systems for SignWriting, adapting to technological
changes over the years, and planning for future growth. He also
mentioned the development and optimism towards Sutton
SignWriting Standards of 2010, 2012, and 2017, and expressed
excitement about future demos of the @sutton-signwriting/core
package.</p>
<p>Which conversations was Jonathan involved in?<br>
</p>
<p>Jonathan Duncan was involved in several discussions, mainly
around the development and release of his SW SignWriter
application. Here are the main points:<br>
<br>
1. Release of the SWSignWriter: Jonathan announced the release
of SWSignWriter for Writing SignWriting. This is an application
that was designed for mobile devices and web browsers. The
application can be installed as an app and primarily works
offline. The first version of the app had a 15-day free trial.<br>
<br>
2. Discussion on SignWriting symbols and history: Jonathan
expressed understanding and acceptance of various constraints
that influenced the current form of International SignWriting
Alphabet (ISWA) and the associated symbols. He acknowledged the
challenges of time, resources, and energy and conveyed gratitude
for having what they do.<br>
<br>
3. Feedback on mind maps and video content: Jonathan appreciated
the mind maps and suggested shorter video durations to make them
more digestible and easier to fit into schedules.<br>
<br>
4. Acknowledging hard work in the community: He acknowledged the
hard work and efforts put into the development of the ISWA and
related fonts.<br>
<br>
Throughout these discussions, Jonathan maintained a helpful and
insightful voice, contributing to the SignWriting community's
collective knowledge.</p>
<p>About about Val?<br>
</p>
<p>Valerie Sutton, often referred to as Val, is a significant
figure in the SignWriting community. As the creator of
SignWriting, she has made monumental contributions to providing
written forms for sign languages.<br>
<br>
In the context you provided, Val appears to be a list moderator
for the SignWriting List. This means that she helps to manage
communications within the SignWriting community, facilitating
discussions and information sharing.<br>
<br>
Val has extensive experience with sign languages, dance
notation, and movement writing. Her work on Sutton Movement
Writing and DanceWriting has made her an essential figure in
these fields. Her dedication towards the SignWriting cause and
her selflessness in providing resources for learners and
teachers globally is remarkable.</p>
<p>Don't you just love ChatGPT?</p>
<p>I hope it made your day.</p>
<p>Have a good one.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2023 8:46 PM, Jonathan Duncan
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Val, <br>
</p>
<p> Looking over the 2021 sign list emails with ChatGPT and
found this.</p>
<p><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en"
moz-do-not-send="true"><https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker/#?ui=en></a><br>
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Click on the button.<br>
<br>
Choose base symbol in the maniquin.<br>
<br>
The symbols are grouped by similarities<br>
<br>
You can choose an orientation<br>
<br>
<br>
Drag the symbol you need to the sign area.<br>
<br>
If you hit Shift-4 you can use the arrow keys to move them
around.<br>
<br>
With the mouse you can select several symbols at once<br>
<br>
Hit Save and you are back in SignMaker2015<br>
<br>
Click on Dictionary to see the FSW.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jonathan</p>
<p>Here are these instructions ChatGPT wrote from those emails
for the keyboard.</p>
<p class="chakra-text css-okrd1s"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border-width:
0px; border-style: solid; box-sizing: border-box;
overflow-wrap: break-word; margin: 0px; border-color:
var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color); color:
var(--chakra-colors-white); padding-top:
var(--chakra-space-1); padding-bottom: var(--chakra-space-1);
font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif;
font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(26, 32, 44);
text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">The features and
usage of QuickSignEditor Keyboard is as follows:</p>
<ol role="list" class="css-by85ht"
style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border-width:
0px; border-style: solid; box-sizing: border-box;
overflow-wrap: break-word; margin: 0px; padding-top:
var(--chakra-space-1); padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom:
var(--chakra-space-1); padding-left: 0px; border-color:
var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color); list-style-type:
decimal; margin-inline-start: 1em; color: rgba(255, 255, 255,
0.92); font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif;
font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(26, 32, 44);
text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">Click on the button to start.</li>
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">Choose the base symbol from a
'maniquin'.</li>
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">The symbols are grouped by
similarities for easy navigation and identification.</li>
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">You can choose an orientation for
the symbol.</li>
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">Drag the symbol you need to the
sign area. You can shift the symbols around using the arrow
keys by pressing Shift-4.</li>
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">It supports mouse functions
whereby you can select multiple symbols at once.</li>
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">Once done, hit 'Save', and you
will return to SignMaker2015.</li>
<li class="css-cvpopp" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
transparent; border-width: 0px; border-style: solid;
box-sizing: border-box; overflow-wrap: break-word;
border-color: var(--chakra-colors-chakra-border-color);
list-style-type: inherit;">You can then click on
'Dictionary' to view the FSW (Formal SignWriting).</li>
</ol>
<p>I hope that helps.</p>
<p>Jonathan<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2023 11:19 AM, Valerie
Sutton wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">SignWriting List
September 13, 2023
Thank you, Jonathan, for mentioning QuickSignEditor
QuickSignEditor
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker" moz-do-not-send="true">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker</a>
I have attached a screen capture. I see the QuickSignEditor link top right on the screen. Can you explain how does it work? Can you give us a brief summary?...
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Sep 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Jonathan Duncan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonathandouglasduncan@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><jonathandouglasduncan@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">clip...…..this version of SignMaker, it’s has my QuickSignEditor in it, which makes it possible to choose the symbols with the keyboard or the mouse and a lot of other interesting improvements to writing with SignWriting.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker" moz-do-not-send="true">https://jonathandduncan.github.io/QuickSignEditor/signmaker</a>
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