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    Hi AnnaGrace,<br>
    <br>
    I have created a zip archive with all of the ISWA 2010 symbols in
    SVG format.  You can download it here:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases</a><br>
    <br>
    Download the file called iswa_2010_svg.zip<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    -Steve<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/3/23 7:16 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Steve, Wallyson, João, and all --
        <div><br>
          <div>Could you (or anyone else) give me step-by-step guidance
            on how to download <b>svg</b> files to my laptop from the
            link provided in an earlier email? Or is there another
            source of <b>svg</b> files of symbols that I can download
            to my laptop?</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I can select the symbols among the <b>svg</b> files and
            upload them to Canva myself. I need them as soon as
            possible. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I don't expect to upload a boatload of symbols onto Canva
            (<a href="http://www.canva.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.canva.com</a>). </div>
          <div>Probably 100 symbols at most, because that's what I need
            for this month.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Many thanks,</div>
          <div>AnnaGrace</div>
          <div><img src="cid:part1.PZ2JeHN1.6AaFPio5@signpuddle.net"
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at
          12:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a
            href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It makes
            everything easier if you think about it. The first benefit
            is being able to get the signs into any tool using a
            built-in support for images, instead of the whole ordeal of
            adding a new font and hoping for some compatibility.
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">-<br>
              <div dir="auto"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="auto">FSW stands for "Formal Sign Writing", you
                can think of it as a set of coordinates or a blueprint
                to create a sign.</div>
              <div dir="auto"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="auto">With a FSW string you can recreate a sign
                container, the symbols and place them in the right
                plane, side and "z-index".</div>
              <div dir="auto"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="auto">All signs have a FSW. I've attached an
                image to this email, it's a screenshot from a Libras
                sign I just researched in signpuddle2. As you can see,
                it has a quite big FSW.</div>
              <div dir="auto"><br>
              </div>
              <div dir="auto">You can find more information on it in
                this documentation written by Steve: <a
href="https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3</a></div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023
              23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a
                href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
              escreveu:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon and all --
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Also, would I be correct that the symbols would
                  have to be uploaded<b> </b>as<b> images</b> and <b>not
                    as a font</b>? </div>
                <div>Just making sure we all are on the same wavelength.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Thanks,</div>
                <div>AnnaGrace</div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at
                  10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <<a
                    href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com"
                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon,
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>You made an excellent point about Canva's
                      capability to mirror (flip) and rotate the images
                      so that not as many symbols need to be uploaded
                      to Canva. (<a href="http://www.canva.com"
                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">www.canva.com</a>)</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I appreciate your help! </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm learning along
                      the way!</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Thanks so much,</div>
                    <div>AnnaGrace</div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1,
                      2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a
                        href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com"
                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="auto">Hey, Steve and Anna!
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">Since the topic is to upload
                          images to Canva.com, I'm assuming they'd be
                          treated as such, without any intention of
                          keeping track of their FSW/code.</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">If that's the case, I believe
                          that the amount of images reduces drastically.</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">Instead of 16 symbols for each
                          hand, it could be only one symbol per hand.
                          Image editors allow the users to rotate them,
                          which defeats the purpose of the 15 extra
                          symbols.</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">That being said, I guess it'd be
                          a lot easier to categorize the signs using
                          human readable names.</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">If I'm not wrong, I saw a table
                          dedicated to English names for each symbol in
                          the sqlite db available in the repository I
                          mentioned earlier. Wouldn't using them with
                          slightly differences make the work easier?</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">Sure, it'd take some time to get
                          there. But, once that's out of the way, I
                          believe many artworks will show up due to how
                          easy and fast it would be to put together a
                          lot of signs in both orthodox and unorthodox
                          ways.</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="auto">I don't promise anything, but
                          I'll take a look at Canva.com to see what are
                          its uploading capabilities. Maybe they already
                          have a way for us to upload many at the same
                          time.</div>
                      </div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua., 1 de
                          nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a
                            href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com"
                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
                          escreveu:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Hi Steve,
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>You are right - SVG files are
                              preferable over PNG files for the quality.
                              I believe Canva.com accepts SVG files.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Could you please direct me to where I
                              could obtain SVG files from <a
href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a>? </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>To make the volume of symbols more
                              manageable, I could accept the symbols
                              used in American Sign Language (ASL). If
                              these ASL symbols could somehow be
                              categorized into a group or one folder, it
                              would help me tremendously in uploading
                              them onto Canva.com. Would that be
                              possible?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Thanks so much,</div>
                            <div>AnnaGrace</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
                              Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Slevinski
                              <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
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                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi AnnaGrace,<br>
                                <br>
                                Keep me posted if you find what you
                                need.  I believe all of the PNG images
                                available are of a lower quality that
                                the SVG refinement.<br>
                                <br>
                                Using <a
href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a>
                                I could write a script to dump all of
                                the symbols into PNG images.<br>
                                <br>
                                For each symbol the command would be:<br>
                                node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000
                                S10000.png<br>
                                <br>
                                Be aware though, there are 37,811 symbol
                                in the ISWA 2010.<br>
                                <br>
                                -Steve<br>
                                <br>
                                <div>On 11/1/23 9:26 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hi Signwriting List --
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I use Canva platform to produce
                                      anything graphics. If you haven't
                                      done so, I encourage you to take a
                                      look at <a
                                        href="http://canva.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">canva.com</a>!
                                      You can create visual posters,
                                      worksheets, flyers, brochures,
                                      eBooks, and more!  Anyone can
                                      upload any image to use on Canva.
                                      There's a free version which
                                      offers plenty.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I would like to use Canva to
                                      create signwriting documents. I
                                      need to upload signwriting symbols
                                      to make this possible. That means
                                      I would need to upload hundreds of
                                      symbols in png files.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>My question to you on the
                                      SignWriting List is, do you happen
                                      to have a zip folder of png files
                                      of individual signwriting symbols
                                      that you can pass on to me?</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>This would save me many, many
                                      hours of work. </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>And I can teach you how to
                                      utilize Canva for signwriting!</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>With warm regards,</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>AnnaGrace Greenfield</div>
                                    <div>A Fan of SignWriting</div>
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