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Hi AnnaGrace,<br>
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I have created a zip archive with all of the ISWA 2010 symbols in
SVG format. You can download it here:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases</a><br>
<br>
Download the file called iswa_2010_svg.zip<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/3/23 7:16 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Steve, Wallyson, João, and all --
<div><br>
<div>Could you (or anyone else) give me step-by-step guidance
on how to download <b>svg</b> files to my laptop from the
link provided in an earlier email? Or is there another
source of <b>svg</b> files of symbols that I can download
to my laptop?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I can select the symbols among the <b>svg</b> files and
upload them to Canva myself. I need them as soon as
possible. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I don't expect to upload a boatload of symbols onto Canva
(<a href="http://www.canva.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.canva.com</a>). </div>
<div>Probably 100 symbols at most, because that's what I need
for this month.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
<div><img src="cid:part1.PZ2JeHN1.6AaFPio5@signpuddle.net"
alt="Screenshot 2023-11-03 at 8.13.03 AM.png"
style="margin-right: 0px;" class="" width="103"
height="41"><a href="http://www.canva.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.canva.com</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at
12:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a
href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It makes
everything easier if you think about it. The first benefit
is being able to get the signs into any tool using a
built-in support for images, instead of the whole ordeal of
adding a new font and hoping for some compatibility.
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">-<br>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">FSW stands for "Formal Sign Writing", you
can think of it as a set of coordinates or a blueprint
to create a sign.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">With a FSW string you can recreate a sign
container, the symbols and place them in the right
plane, side and "z-index".</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">All signs have a FSW. I've attached an
image to this email, it's a screenshot from a Libras
sign I just researched in signpuddle2. As you can see,
it has a quite big FSW.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">You can find more information on it in
this documentation written by Steve: <a
href="https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023
23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a
href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon and all --
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, would I be correct that the symbols would
have to be uploaded<b> </b>as<b> images</b> and <b>not
as a font</b>? </div>
<div>Just making sure we all are on the same wavelength.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at
10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <<a
href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You made an excellent point about Canva's
capability to mirror (flip) and rotate the images
so that not as many symbols need to be uploaded
to Canva. (<a href="http://www.canva.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.canva.com</a>)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I appreciate your help! </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm learning along
the way!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks so much,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1,
2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a
href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hey, Steve and Anna!
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Since the topic is to upload
images to Canva.com, I'm assuming they'd be
treated as such, without any intention of
keeping track of their FSW/code.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">If that's the case, I believe
that the amount of images reduces drastically.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Instead of 16 symbols for each
hand, it could be only one symbol per hand.
Image editors allow the users to rotate them,
which defeats the purpose of the 15 extra
symbols.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">That being said, I guess it'd be
a lot easier to categorize the signs using
human readable names.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">If I'm not wrong, I saw a table
dedicated to English names for each symbol in
the sqlite db available in the repository I
mentioned earlier. Wouldn't using them with
slightly differences make the work easier?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Sure, it'd take some time to get
there. But, once that's out of the way, I
believe many artworks will show up due to how
easy and fast it would be to put together a
lot of signs in both orthodox and unorthodox
ways.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I don't promise anything, but
I'll take a look at Canva.com to see what are
its uploading capabilities. Maybe they already
have a way for us to upload many at the same
time.</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua., 1 de
nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a
href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Steve,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You are right - SVG files are
preferable over PNG files for the quality.
I believe Canva.com accepts SVG files.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Could you please direct me to where I
could obtain SVG files from <a
href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a>? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To make the volume of symbols more
manageable, I could accept the symbols
used in American Sign Language (ASL). If
these ASL symbols could somehow be
categorized into a group or one folder, it
would help me tremendously in uploading
them onto Canva.com. Would that be
possible?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks so much,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Slevinski
<<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi AnnaGrace,<br>
<br>
Keep me posted if you find what you
need. I believe all of the PNG images
available are of a lower quality that
the SVG refinement.<br>
<br>
Using <a
href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a>
I could write a script to dump all of
the symbols into PNG images.<br>
<br>
For each symbol the command would be:<br>
node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000
S10000.png<br>
<br>
Be aware though, there are 37,811 symbol
in the ISWA 2010.<br>
<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
<div>On 11/1/23 9:26 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Signwriting List --
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I use Canva platform to produce
anything graphics. If you haven't
done so, I encourage you to take a
look at <a
href="http://canva.com"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">canva.com</a>!
You can create visual posters,
worksheets, flyers, brochures,
eBooks, and more! Anyone can
upload any image to use on Canva.
There's a free version which
offers plenty.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I would like to use Canva to
create signwriting documents. I
need to upload signwriting symbols
to make this possible. That means
I would need to upload hundreds of
symbols in png files.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My question to you on the
SignWriting List is, do you happen
to have a zip folder of png files
of individual signwriting symbols
that you can pass on to me?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This would save me many, many
hours of work. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And I can teach you how to
utilize Canva for signwriting!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>With warm regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>AnnaGrace Greenfield</div>
<div>A Fan of SignWriting</div>
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