<div dir="ltr">Hi Steve, Wallyson, João, and all --<div><br><div>Could you (or anyone else) give me step-by-step guidance on how to download <b>svg</b> files to my laptop from the link provided in an earlier email? Or is there another source of <b>svg</b> files of symbols that I can download to my laptop?</div><div><br></div><div>I can select the symbols among the <b>svg</b> files and upload them to Canva myself. I need them as soon as possible. </div><div><br></div><div>I don't expect to upload a boatload of symbols onto Canva (<a href="http://www.canva.com">www.canva.com</a>). </div><div>Probably 100 symbols at most, because that's what I need for this month.</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div><div><img src="cid:ii_loiku4qt1" alt="Screenshot 2023-11-03 at 8.13.03 AM.png" width="103" height="41" style="margin-right: 0px;"><a href="http://www.canva.com">www.canva.com</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 12:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It makes everything easier if you think about it. The first benefit is being able to get the signs into any tool using a built-in support for images, instead of the whole ordeal of adding a new font and hoping for some compatibility.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-<br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">FSW stands for "Formal Sign Writing", you can think of it as a set of coordinates or a blueprint to create a sign.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">With a FSW string you can recreate a sign container, the symbols and place them in the right plane, side and "z-index".</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">All signs have a FSW. I've attached an image to this email, it's a screenshot from a Libras sign I just researched in signpuddle2. As you can see, it has a quite big FSW.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You can find more information on it in this documentation written by Steve: <a href="https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3" target="_blank">https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3</a></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon and all --<div><br></div><div>Also, would I be correct that the symbols would have to be uploaded<b> </b>as<b> images</b> and <b>not as a font</b>? </div><div>Just making sure we all are on the same wavelength.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon,<div><br></div><div>You made an excellent point about Canva's capability to mirror (flip) and rotate the images so that not as many symbols need to be uploaded to Canva. (<a href="http://www.canva.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.canva.com</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate your help! </div><div><br></div><div>By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm learning along the way!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks so much,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hey, Steve and Anna!<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since the topic is to upload images to Canva.com, I'm assuming they'd be treated as such, without any intention of keeping track of their FSW/code.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If that's the case, I believe that the amount of images reduces drastically.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Instead of 16 symbols for each hand, it could be only one symbol per hand. Image editors allow the users to rotate them, which defeats the purpose of the 15 extra symbols.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That being said, I guess it'd be a lot easier to categorize the signs using human readable names.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If I'm not wrong, I saw a table dedicated to English names for each symbol in the sqlite db available in the repository I mentioned earlier. Wouldn't using them with slightly differences make the work easier?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sure, it'd take some time to get there. But, once that's out of the way, I believe many artworks will show up due to how easy and fast it would be to put together a lot of signs in both orthodox and unorthodox ways.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't promise anything, but I'll take a look at Canva.com to see what are its uploading capabilities. Maybe they already have a way for us to upload many at the same time.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>You are right - SVG files are preferable over PNG files for the quality. I believe Canva.com accepts SVG files.</div><div><br></div><div>Could you please direct me to where I could obtain SVG files from <a href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a>? </div><div><br></div><div>To make the volume of symbols more manageable, I could accept the symbols used in American Sign Language (ASL). If these ASL symbols could somehow be categorized into a group or one folder, it would help me tremendously in uploading them onto Canva.com. Would that be possible?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks so much,</div><div>AnnaGrace</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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Hi AnnaGrace,<br>
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Keep me posted if you find what you need. I believe all of the PNG
images available are of a lower quality that the SVG refinement.<br>
<br>
Using <a href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a> I could write a
script to dump all of the symbols into PNG images.<br>
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For each symbol the command would be:<br>
node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000 S10000.png<br>
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Be aware though, there are 37,811 symbol in the ISWA 2010.<br>
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-Steve<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Signwriting List --
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<div>I use Canva platform to produce anything graphics. If you
haven't done so, I encourage you to take a look at <a href="http://canva.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">canva.com</a>!
You can create visual posters, worksheets, flyers, brochures,
eBooks, and more! Anyone can upload any image to use on
Canva. There's a free version which offers plenty.</div>
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<div>I would like to use Canva to create signwriting documents.
I need to upload signwriting symbols to make this possible.
That means I would need to upload hundreds of symbols in png
files.</div>
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<div>My question to you on the SignWriting List is, do you
happen to have a zip folder of png files of individual
signwriting symbols that you can pass on to me?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This would save me many, many hours of work. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And I can teach you how to utilize Canva for signwriting!</div>
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<div>With warm regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>AnnaGrace Greenfield</div>
<div>A Fan of SignWriting</div>
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