<div dir="ltr">Hi Steve,<div><br></div><div>It worked! Your screenshot helped.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you SO much,</div><div><br></div><div>AnnaGrace :-)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 3, 2025 at 10:52 PM Steve Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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Hi AnnaGrace,<br>
<br>
If you go to the release page. Scroll down to v2.0.5. Expand the
assets. You'll see the iswa_2010_svg.zip file.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
<img src="cid:ii_19875e5b82a4d4864031" alt=""><br>
<br>
<div>On 8/3/25 8:09 PM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr"><font size="4">Hi Steve,</font>
<div><font size="4"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size="4">I'm still working on a project using the SVG
files of ISWA 2010 symbols. <br>
<br>
I need to download the file again. I just tried the link you
provided on November 3, 2023, but it seems to have been
removed since.</font></div>
<div><font size="4"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size="4">Could you, if possible, please re-release
the zip archive with all of the ISWA 2010 symbols in SVG
format in the <a href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases" target="_blank">https://github.com/sutton-<span>signwriting</span>/font-db/releases</a>?<br>
<br>
Thanks kindly for your time and assistance.</font></div>
<div><font size="4"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size="4">With warm regards,</font></div>
<div><font size="4">AnnaGrace</font></div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at
10:12 AM Steve Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" target="_blank">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi AnnaGrace,<br>
<br>
I have created a zip archive with all of the ISWA 2010
symbols in SVG format. You can download it here:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases" target="_blank">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db/releases</a><br>
<br>
Download the file called iswa_2010_svg.zip<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
<div>On 11/3/23 7:16 AM, Ms. AnnaGrace wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Steve, Wallyson, João, and all --
<div><br>
<div>Could you (or anyone else) give me step-by-step
guidance on how to download <b>svg</b> files to my
laptop from the link provided in an earlier email?
Or is there another source of <b>svg</b> files of
symbols that I can download to my laptop?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I can select the symbols among the <b>svg</b>
files and upload them to Canva myself. I need them
as soon as possible. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I don't expect to upload a boatload of symbols
onto Canva (<a href="http://www.canva.com" target="_blank">www.canva.com</a>). </div>
<div>Probably 100 symbols at most, because that's what
I need for this month.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
<div><img src="cid:ii_19875e5b82a6e10b1172" alt="Screenshot 2023-11-03 at 8.13.03 AM.png" style="margin-right: 0px;" width="103" height="41"><a href="http://www.canva.com" target="_blank">www.canva.com</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at
12:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com" target="_blank">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">Yeah, I realized they'd be images. It
makes everything easier if you think about it. The
first benefit is being able to get the signs into
any tool using a built-in support for images,
instead of the whole ordeal of adding a new font and
hoping for some compatibility.
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">-<br>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">FSW stands for "Formal Sign
Writing", you can think of it as a set of
coordinates or a blueprint to create a sign.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">With a FSW string you can recreate
a sign container, the symbols and place them in
the right plane, side and "z-index".</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">All signs have a FSW. I've
attached an image to this email, it's a
screenshot from a Libras sign I just researched
in signpuddle2. As you can see, it has a quite
big FSW.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">You can find more information on
it in this documentation written by Steve: <a href="https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3" target="_blank">https://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-slevinski-formal-signwriting-01.html#rfc.section.3</a></div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua., 1 de nov.
de 2023 23:11, Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
escreveu:<br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon and all --
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, would I be correct that the symbols
would have to be uploaded<b> </b>as<b> images</b>
and <b>not as a font</b>? </div>
<div>Just making sure we all are on the same
wavelength.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1,
2023 at 10:06 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Ruon,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You made an excellent point about
Canva's capability to mirror (flip) and
rotate the images so that not as many
symbols need to be uploaded to Canva. (<a href="http://www.canva.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.canva.com</a>)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I appreciate your help! </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>By the way, what's FSW/code? I'm
learning along the way!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks so much,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
Nov 1, 2023 at 8:23 PM Wallyson Ruan <<a href="mailto:wallysonruan@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wallysonruan@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div dir="auto">Hey, Steve and Anna!
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Since the topic is to
upload images to Canva.com, I'm
assuming they'd be treated as such,
without any intention of keeping track
of their FSW/code.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">If that's the case, I
believe that the amount of images
reduces drastically.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Instead of 16 symbols
for each hand, it could be only one
symbol per hand. Image editors allow
the users to rotate them, which
defeats the purpose of the 15 extra
symbols.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">That being said, I guess
it'd be a lot easier to categorize the
signs using human readable names.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">If I'm not wrong, I saw
a table dedicated to English names for
each symbol in the sqlite db available
in the repository I mentioned earlier.
Wouldn't using them with slightly
differences make the work easier?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Sure, it'd take some
time to get there. But, once that's
out of the way, I believe many
artworks will show up due to how easy
and fast it would be to put together a
lot of signs in both orthodox and
unorthodox ways.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I don't promise
anything, but I'll take a look at
Canva.com to see what are its
uploading capabilities. Maybe they
already have a way for us to upload
many at the same time.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em
qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 18:26, Ms.
AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>>
escreveu:<br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Steve,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You are right - SVG files are
preferable over PNG files for the
quality. I believe Canva.com
accepts SVG files.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Could you please direct me to
where I could obtain SVG files
from <a href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a>? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To make the volume of symbols
more manageable, I could accept
the symbols used in American Sign
Language (ASL). If these ASL
symbols could somehow be
categorized into a group or one
folder, it would help me
tremendously in uploading them
onto Canva.com. Would that be
possible?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks so much,</div>
<div>AnnaGrace</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 2:24 PM Steve
Slevinski <<a href="mailto:slevin@signpuddle.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">slevin@signpuddle.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi
AnnaGrace,<br>
<br>
Keep me posted if you find what
you need. I believe all of the
PNG images available are of a
lower quality that the SVG
refinement.<br>
<br>
Using <a href="https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sutton-signwriting/font-db</a>
I could write a script to dump
all of the symbols into PNG
images.<br>
<br>
For each symbol the command
would be:<br>
node fsw/fsw-symbol-png S10000
S10000.png<br>
<br>
Be aware though, there are
37,811 symbol in the ISWA 2010.<br>
<br>
-Steve<br>
<br>
<div>On 11/1/23 9:26 AM, Ms.
AnnaGrace wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Signwriting
List --
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I use Canva platform to
produce anything graphics.
If you haven't done so, I
encourage you to take a
look at <a href="http://canva.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">canva.com</a>!
You can create visual
posters, worksheets,
flyers, brochures, eBooks,
and more! Anyone can
upload any image to use on
Canva. There's a free
version which offers
plenty.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I would like to use
Canva to create
signwriting documents. I
need to upload signwriting
symbols to make this
possible. That means I
would need to upload
hundreds of symbols in png
files.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My question to you on
the SignWriting List is,
do you happen to have a
zip folder of png files of
individual signwriting
symbols that you can pass
on to me?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This would save me
many, many hours of work. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And I can teach you how
to utilize Canva for
signwriting!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>With warm regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>AnnaGrace Greenfield</div>
<div>A Fan of SignWriting</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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