<div dir="ltr">Hi Amit,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for the videos. They are helpful and a useful resource.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think there's a problem in distinguishing the two signs - if one signs in ISL consistently throughout a conversation, that sign will always mean "friend". Just don't mix ISL and ASL in the same conversation. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Interestingly, the ISL sign for "friend" is closer to the ASL sign for "congratulations":<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0HCP1b8zJk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0HCP1b8zJk</a></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>AnnaGrace Greenfield</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 5:28 AM Amit Moryossef <<a href="mailto:amitmoryossef@gmail.com">amitmoryossef@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Anna! no particular clarification is needed, but I am happy to share the signs - <div>1. ISL "friend" <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh3D0nszlD0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh3D0nszlD0</a></div><div>2. ASL "marriage" <a href="https://media.signbsl.com/videos/asl/aslsignbank/mp4/MARRY-1625.mp4" target="_blank">https://media.signbsl.com/videos/asl/aslsignbank/mp4/MARRY-1625.mp4</a></div><div><br>Both signs are different to my name sign - my name sign is like ISL "friend" but without the movement. and the ASL "marriage" but with a firm grasp.<br>My name sign is somewhat a combination of "friend" and an audible "clap" sound. My ISL teacher gave it to me; <br>the "friend" part reflects the meaning of my name, and the "clap" part because I am hearing, which helps get my attention quickly.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this helps clarify the story :)</div><div>Amit</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 8:11 PM Ms. AnnaGrace <<a href="mailto:msannagrace20@gmail.com" target="_blank">msannagrace20@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Amit,<div>Thank you for all your hard work!</div><div>I can help clarify the signs for ISL's "friend" and ASL's "husband". </div><div>First, could you send me videos of the Israeli sign for "friend"?</div><div>Curious me,</div><div>Anna :-)</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 1:35 AM Amit Moryossef <<a href="mailto:amitmoryossef@gmail.com" target="_blank">amitmoryossef@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks! I guess that is one misunderstanding on my part 😅<div>It is now removed from the book!</div><div><br></div><div>If you find anything else, please let me know</div><div><br></div><div>Amit</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 8:26 PM Josenilson da Silva Mendes <<a href="mailto:jsm88b@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsm88b@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Olá, Amit e colegas da SW List!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Escrevi alguns exemplos para ficar mais claro.<br><br>Essa escrita abaixo está incorreta.<br></div><img src="cid:ii_mqqybsbd4" alt="image.png" width="136" height="96" style="margin-right: 0px;"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span></div><img src="cid:ii_mqqydhc35" alt="image.png" width="133" height="253" style="margin-right: 0px;"><br><div><br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Essas escritas abaixo estão corretas.<br></div><img src="cid:ii_mqqykkr16" alt="image.png" width="318" height="307" style="margin-right: 0px;"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span></div><span style="background-color:transparent"></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">O movimento diagonal no plano chão segue a mesma regra. </div><br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span></div><img src="cid:ii_mqqz5qdf11" alt="image.png" width="115" height="227" style="margin-right: 0px;"><br><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Josenilson Mendes</span><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em ter., 23 de jun. de 2026 às 04:58, Amit Moryossef <<a href="mailto:amitmoryossef@gmail.com" target="_blank">amitmoryossef@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Josenilison,<div><br></div><div>My name sign is:</div><span id="m_4929832745196269573m_-3730285344350055483m_1734868029505746741m_-8476742528423761000m_2221518841903236092m_8410974305318053324gmail-docs-internal-guid-6ae31502-7fff-9dd4-1a88-994c12dbeae3"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(28,44,64);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="cid:ii_mqqc4rc42" alt="image.png" width="73" height="54"></span></span><br><div>It was given to me in Israeli sign language, and the meaning is "friend" (my name Amit means friend)</div><div>In ASL this is closer to "husband", but for me, not yet ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the feedback - <span style="background-color:transparent">I am not sure what you mean regarding the hands moving separately.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:transparent">I attach a video of what I am seeing: </span><span style="background-color:transparent"><a href="https://supercut.ai/share/rylo/BViSj30xRQ0AB5CjWLFAgt" target="_blank">https://supercut.ai/share/rylo/BViSj30xRQ0AB5CjWLFAgt</a> </span></div><div>When choosing the right hand, only that hand moves. Choosing "left", only moves left. Choosing "both" moves both.</div><div>I rotated the person slightly so it looks a bit more correct.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Amit</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 12:35 AM Josenilson da Silva Mendes <<a href="mailto:jsm88b@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsm88b@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Que trabalho maravilhoso, Amit!<br><br>Já vou divulgar no nosso grupo de escrita de sinais do Brasil. Com certeza vai ajudar muito os aprendizes iniciantes.<br><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Gostaria de saber como é seu personal sign in ASL. O meu você pode ver em minha foto do perfil no Gmail.<br><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Você pediu para apontar correções. Bem, aí nessa imagem da animação 3d, as mãos estão se movendo separadas e em paralelo, sem sobreposição dos movimentos. A seta não corresponde à ortografia do sistema. A animação precisa ser alterada para evitar confundir o aprendiz.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><img src="cid:ii_mqps8wlc0" alt="image.png" width="306" height="472"><br><br clear="all"></div><div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Saudações.</div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Josenilson Mendes</span><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em seg., 22 de jun. de 2026 às 11:54, Valerie Sutton <<a href="mailto:sutton@signwriting.org" target="_blank">sutton@signwriting.org</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">SignWriting List<div>June 22, 2026</div><div><br></div><div>Hello Amit!</div><div>Thank you for this wonderful gift. And thank you Adam for all the work you have done on this book. And thanks to Lucinda and Kevin as well. </div><div><br></div><div>This is an exciting new development!</div><div><br></div><div>Val 😊</div><div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 22, 2026, at 4:52 AM, Amit Moryossef <<a href="mailto:amitmoryossef@gmail.com" target="_blank">amitmoryossef@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p>Hi all,</p>
<p>When I first started learning SignWriting, I came across the <span><i>Lessons in SignWriting</i></span> book. It is a wonderful resource, but as a beginner—and without any background in ASL at the time—I struggled to fully understand it.</p>
<p>The book could show me SignWriting, but I wanted to see the pages come alive. I wanted to see people signing, understand how the written forms corresponded to real movement, and explore the symbols interactively.</p>
<p>Over the past few months, I have been working on a new version of the book, which I call the <span><i>Interactive Edition</i></span>. It aims to remain mostly faithful to the original material while adding interactive elements:</p>
<ul><li>Hover over most signs to watch Adam sign them.</li><li>Hover over handshapes to see the corresponding real hand.</li><li>Hover over many other SignWriting symbols to view example videos.</li><li>Use the 3D viewer to understand how movement arrows represent motion in three dimensions.</li><li><b>Practice</b> reading, and writing, with games sprinkled throughout.</li></ul>
<p>You can explore it here:<br>
<a href="https://research.sign.mt/lessons-in-signwriting/" target="_blank">https://research.sign.mt/lessons-in-signwriting/</a></p><p>I made a walkthrough video explaining it <a href="https://supercut.ai/share/rylo/7F83XmIEOSlxO5Rw5kdeRH" target="_blank">https://supercut.ai/share/rylo/7F83XmIEOSlxO5Rw5kdeRH</a> </p>
<p>I hope you find it a useful extension of the original material. The project is open source and available here: <a href="https://github.com/sign-language-processing/lessons-in-signwriting" target="_blank">https://github.com/sign-language-processing/lessons-in-signwriting</a> <span style="background-color:transparent">Contributions, corrections, and suggestions are very welcome. The goal is to create a resource that clearly presents the full system and is useful to both new learners and experienced SignWriting users.</span></p>
<p>As always, this work would not have been possible without the previous work, and contributions of many people—especially Valerie, Adam, Steve, Lucinda, and Kevin.</p>
<p>Best,<br>
Amit</p></div>
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