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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hello again Emilie.
Thanks very much for this message, and for the delay at my end. These
two articles are both very interesting in their different ways,
and show both similarities and differences between France and the
UK. In both countries, it seems that grammar is a hot topic for
debate, and there's a lot of uncertainty about aims as well as
about content and methods. But in France you never abandoned
grammar teaching totally, so your teachers all know some grammar
and the question is how to develop this knowledge and apply it to
the teaching of standard French. Anyway, I've added your
references to the website at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://teach-grammar.com/geography#france">http://teach-grammar.com/geography#france</a> . <br>
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If anyone else on this list can provide information about the
teaching of grammar in other countries, I would love to expand
this list of countries!!<br>
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Best wishes, Dick<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/11/2015 12:10, Emilie Kasazian
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you Richard, </div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">your
website is very helpful! </div>
<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Regarding
the situation on French subject grammar teaching in France,
it is useful to read papers from <b>Daniele Manesse:</b></div>
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<p class=""
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:150%"><span
style="line-height:150%">MANESSE, D. (2008), <span
style="color:rgb(31,31,31)">« Pour
un enseignement de la grammaire minimal et suffisant », <em>Le
français
aujourd'hui</em><span class="">, </span>2008 :3,
n° 162, p. 103-112<span class="">.</span></span></span></p>
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style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:150%"><span
style="color:rgb(31,31,31)"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cairn.info/publications-de-Manesse-Dani%C3%A8le--24288.htm">http://www.cairn.info/publications-de-Manesse-Dani%C3%A8le--24288.htm</a></span></p>
<p class="" style=""><span class=""><font color="#1f1f1f"
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span
style="line-height:19.5px">or <b>jean-Louis Chiss (</b>among
others, obviously) </span></font></span></p>
<p class="" style=""><span
style="line-height:19.5px;color:rgb(31,31,31);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cairn.info/revue-le-francais-aujourd-hui-2011-5-page-129.htm"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cairn.info/revue-le-francais-aujourd-hui-2011-5-page-129.htm">http://www.cairn.info/revue-le-francais-aujourd-hui-2011-5-page-129.htm</a></a></span></p>
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<p class="" style=""><span class=""><font color="#1f1f1f"
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span
style="line-height:19.5px">Kind regards, </span></font></span></p>
<p class="" style=""><span class=""><font color="#1f1f1f"
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span
style="line-height:19.5px">Emilie Kasazian</span></font></span></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2015-11-10 15:52 GMT+01:00 Richard
Hudson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font face="Times
New Roman, Times, serif">Hello Emilie. Thanks for your
inquiry. You'll find quite a bit of information about
the situation in the UK on my website at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://dickhudson.com/education/"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dickhudson.com/education/">http://dickhudson.com/education/</a></a> .
I for one would love to know what's happening in France!
If you have anything for us to read (in French or
English - or any other language!) I'm sure we'd all be
interested to see it.<br>
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Richard Hudson </font><br>
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members, </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#000000">my
PHD research leads me to consider grammar
teaching in primary schools.</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#000000"> </div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#000000">I
would like to know if there are any existing
books or papers reviewing the situation
regarding grammar teaching in primary schools?
Based from observations (for example) or
questionnaires and which would give us a clear
view on "what is going on" in terms og English
grammat teaching in the classroom (frequency,
use of metalanguage/ grammar terminology) etc. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#000000">Thank
you very much for your advice and
recommendations, </div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#000000">Kind
regards, </div>
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Sorbonne-Nouvelle- </font><span
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