<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Since my statement has required two "clarifications," let me clarify that I said that neither Watters or Donohue had released their DATA. The information in a publication cannot be verified unless the DATA is released. Also, it is very hard for new research to be done on a language if there is not DATA available. Kusunda will be dead in a few years, and if no DATA is available on it, then the works of Watters and Donohue will be the last things ever written about the language. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Watters is unfortunately no longer with us, so his DATA is probably lost forever. As for Donohue, why he is so reluctant to publish his DATA is a mystery to me, despite having me asked him myself this question in Sydney this summer. Particularly when the public funds research, it is a mystery to me why researchers do not want the public to check the accuracy of their work and build upon it. </div><div><br></div><div>In my original posting I did not make a mistake. Watters and Donohue hae not published their DATA and Uday and Tim have. <br></div><div><br></div><div>thank you, <br></div><div>Nathan<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br><br>--<br>Dr Nathan W. Hill<br>Reader in Tibetan and Historical Linguistics<br>Research Coordinator, East Asian Languages and Cultures<br>UK Director, London Confucius Institute<br>SOAS, University of London<br>Thornhaugh Street, Russell Square, London WC1H 0XG, UK<br>Tel: +44 (0)20 7898 4512<br>Room 456<br>--<br>Profile -- <a href="http://www.soas.ac.uk/staff/staff46254.php" target="_blank">http://www.soas.ac.uk/staff/staff46254.php</a><br>Tibetan Studies at SOAS -- <a href="http://www.soas.ac.uk/cia/tibetanstudies/" target="_blank">http://www.soas.ac.uk/cia/tibetanstudies/</a><br>--</div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:32 PM Kristine Hildebrandt <<a href="mailto:khildeb@siue.edu">khildeb@siue.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">H again all,<div><br></div><div>I wanted to also just clarify that Mark Donohue's work on Kusunda is also out there in many publications (co-authored with Bohj Raj Gautam and Madhav Prasad Pokhrel), and so Uday Raj and Tim Bodt's publicly released data set can be seen as complementing both David and Mark's published descriptions/analyses:</div><div><br></div><div>Donohue, Mark, and Bhoj Raj Gautam. 2013. Evidence and stance in Kusunda. Nepalese
Linguistics 28: 38-47. <a href="http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/collections/journals/nepling/" target="_blank">http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/collections/journals/nepling/</a><br></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">Donohue, Mark</span><span style="border:0px none;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;margin:0px;outline:currentcolor none 0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">, Bhoj Raj Gautam and Madhav Prasad Pokharel. 2014. Negation and nominalization in Kusunda. </span><i style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif"><span style="border:0px none;font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;margin:0px;outline:currentcolor none 0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Language</span></i><span style="border:0px none;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;margin:0px;outline:currentcolor none 0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"> 90 (3): 737-745. DOI </span><a href="https://doi.org/10.1353/lan.2014.0054" style="box-sizing:inherit;line-height:inherit;text-decoration-line:none;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;outline-width:0px" target="_blank">10.1353/lan.2014.0054</a></font><br></div><div>Gautam, Bhoj Raj, and Mark Donohue. 2014. Deixis in Kusunda. Nepalese Linguistics 29: 152-
157. <a href="http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/collections/journals/nepling/" target="_blank">http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/collections/journals/nepling/</a><br></div><div>Donohue, Mark, and Bhoj Raj Gautam. 2016. Quantification in Kusunda. In Denis Paperno and
Ed. Keenan, eds., Quantification in Natural Language. <a href="https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789400726802" target="_blank">https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789400726802</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:56 AM Nathan Hill <<a href="mailto:nh36@soas.ac.uk" target="_blank">nh36@soas.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Colleague, <br></div><div><br></div><div>I just wanted to let people know about the new data on Kusunda that Uday Raj and Tim Bodt have publicly filed on Zenodo. Kusunda is a language isolate with only two speakers. In the last decades some work was done on it by the late David E. Watters, and my Mark Donohue, but neither of them published their research data. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Uday and Tim have now put more than 20 hours of material online open access, as described in the attached .pdf file. <br></div><div><br></div><div>very best, <br></div><div>Nathan<br></div></div>
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