No subject

Johanna Laakso jolaakso at
Wed Oct 20 19:12:05 UTC 1999

Received: from ( [])
	by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA16222
	for <ura-list at>; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:09:47 +0300 (EET DST)
Received: from (sendmail at [])
	by (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA30094
	for <ura-list at>; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:09:46 +0300 (EET DST)
Received: from localhost (jolaakso at localhost) by (8.8.8-spammers-bug-off/8.8.0) with ESMTP id WAA30234 for <ura-list at>; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:09:46 +0300 (EET DST)
X-Authentication-Warning: jolaakso owned process doing -bs
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:09:46 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Johanna Laakso <jolaakso at>
X-Sender: jolaakso at
To: ura-list at
Subject: RE:  (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.03.9910202209270.26675-100000 at>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:11:15 +0300
From: Tiit-Rein Viitso <viitso at>
To: 'Johanna Laakso' <jolaakso at>
Subject: RE:

Hyva  Johanna
Huomasin Corneliuksen viestia lukiessa, etta hajamielisyydestani johtuen en
ole kiinnittanyt huomiota siihen, etta olit toiminut Kazuton viestin
valittajana. Anteeksi! Kun en tieda, miten olet menetellyt, lahetan Sinulle
myos englanninkielisen version.
Parhain terveisin

Please note that the drevnepermskaja azbuka was, inasmuch we know, not a
Permian one. It was applied only for Komi and maybe only for Zyrian Komi.
Hence one should avoid Lytkin's and Baker's terms. I feel that Old Komi
were the best solution in that case because the English orthography has
caused too many problems for anyone who has ever tried to write about
non-Permyak Komi, cf. e.g. Zyryene ~ Zyryen ~ Ziryene ~Ziryen ~ Zyrian etc.
Tiit-Rein Viitso
viitso at

-----Original Message-----
From:	Johanna Laakso [SMTP:jolaakso at]
Sent:	20. lokakuuta 1999 15:55
To:	ura-list at

Received: from (
	by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id
	for <ura-list at>; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:12:16 +0300 (EET DST)
Received: from (root at [])
	by (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id
	Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:12:14 +0300 (EET DST)
Received: from ( [])
	by (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11188;
	Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:12:06 +0200 (METDST)
Message-Id: <199910201112.NAA11188 at>
Received: from LET1/SpoolDir by (Mercury 1.46);
    20 Oct 99 13:12:08 +0200
Received: from SpoolDir by LET1 (Mercury 1.46); 20 Oct 99 13:11:40 +0200
From: "C.Th. Hasselblatt" <C.Th.Hasselblatt at>
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, RuG, NL
To: ura-list at, Johanna Laakso <jolaakso at>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:11:34 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Subject: Old Permian
Priority: normal
In-reply-to: <199910201037.NAA13927 at>
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by kantti.Helsinki.FI
id OAA14403

Robin Baker uses "Old Permian writing" , "Old Permian
translations" etc. so may-be Old Permian alphabet? Cf. FUF 45
(1983), pp.82-106
Cornelius Hasselblatt
Prof. dr. C.Th.Hasselblatt
Rijksuniversiteit Groningen
Faculteit der Letteren / Finoegristiek
Postbus 716
NL-9700 AS Groningen
tel: +31-50-3637481 / prive +31-[0]6-50605686
fax: +31-50-3635821
e-mail: C.Th.Hasselblatt at

More information about the Ura-list mailing list