research progress report and new article on the results

Balazs Csurgai helian at
Sat Sep 4 22:22:31 UTC 2010

Greetings to all. 

Motto: *koje-n congka-pekke :).

Announcement of a new article 
Its title is: 

"The Hsiungnu-Hun-Hungarian language and history - 
Further analysis, new results" 
21 pages 

The direct internet link for download:

This work is my second contribution to the disciplines of 
Uralistics, linguistics, history, and the like. In this, 
I'm presenting and sharing the new results of my further 
(from that time) researches, regarding mainly the topic: 
the Hun(gar)ic language analysis. 
So, this is the same topic as that of my previous article: 
"Huns and Ugors". This latter's final edition (alpha) is 
also on its way to completion, that will be titled as: 
"Huns and Ugors - The demonstration of the 
Hsiungnu-Hun-Hungarian continuity". 

Now as my research has accumulated to a considerable amount 
of informations, at this stage it is possible to overview 
in a summary what can be seen. 
I am presenting and sharing these materials, so other 
scholars of the field also can consider and use them, or at 
least, take them into account in their works and thinking. 

This summary is a simple web page, its internet adress is:

This summary also covers some elements of the first 
article, and some parts of this summary material are not 
present in the pdf article, the more general Uralic issues, 
as the article's main theme was not that but the 
Hun(garian), their language and history. And so this 
summary-work may also stand as a separate 
article/publication in itself. 
Also it can be seen simply as an enumeration listing 
of the Uralic words that are available, at present stage, 
from the old Chinese sources. 


It contains some new words, identifications and meanings 
(general semantics), etymologies and also some historical 
hints and discussions. 

The summary's entries for Hun(garian) (Ugrian/Uralic) 
words and etymologies are: 

Hun, Ur, Sang, Ursang, Ugor, Mans, Hun-Sang-gig, Charaton, 
Gilgames, Tunder, Varkhun, the -(V)n(V) plural suffix, 
Bleda, Attila, Mesopotamia / Etelköz, Uldin, Sabir, Barsel, 
Babylon, Hephtal, Dengezich, etc. 

For clarification, at the words' discussions, I give, in both 
works, the corresponding entry numbers of the: 
"Starostin's Tower of Babel Etymological Database's 
Uralic section" (as ToB#:).\data\uralic\uralet&root=config&morpho=0

This Uralic part of the database, started by Helimski, is 
based mainly on Rédei's "Uralisches etymologisches 
Wörterbuch" and other such works. 

In the summary I also mention a brand new topic, 
based on population-genetical and linguistics data. 
This is not only the (mainly) documented Hsiungnu-Chinese 
contacts, but rather the possibility of ancient 
Chinese-Uralic connections, thus: Sino-Uralica. 
I don't give complete answers for this phenomenon, just raising the questions that may demand some answers. 

For those, who don't know the subject yet, my two previous, 
connecting posts are in the URALIST archive, here: 
The first mail announcing the study, version 1 beta is in 
Jan 2010:
The second for version 4 pre-A is in Mar 2010:

I've also made a direct link to the previous 
article v4 pre-A:

Best Regards, 

Balázs Csurgai, Hungary, 04 sep 2010. 

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