Moderator's notes: Discussion policy

Johanna Laakso johanna.laakso at univie.ac.at
Sun May 19 06:09:12 UTC 2013


Dear All,

as a clarification: I only just found Erika Sarivaara's message in the approval queue of our list. Please note that URA-LIST is a closed list, to which only members can send mail. All messages from others as well as oversized messages go to the approval queue. As the moderator, I get an automatic notification of each non-approved mail waiting in the approval queue, but as these messages can get sandwiched between of dozens of spam messages coming in every day, I may overlook them.

Personally, I share Florian Siegl's opinion: comments on somebody's Facebook wall, however public, are not "public discussion" and should not serve as a basis for real scholarly debate, until these ideas are brought to a proper scholarly forum. However, I also wanted you to know that URA-LIST will not censor discussion as long as the usual standards of scholarly debate and codes of conduct are adhered to.

Best
JL 
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Univ.Prof. Dr. Johanna Laakso
Universität Wien, Institut für Europäische und Vergleichende Sprach- und Literaturwissenschaft (EVSL)
Abteilung Finno-Ugristik
Campus AAKH Spitalgasse 2-4 Hof 7
A-1090 Wien
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Välitetty viesti alkaa:

> Lähettäjä: Erika Sarivaara <erika.sarivaara at gmail.com>
> Aihe: Re: In defense of Dr. Erika Sarivaara
> Päivämäärä: 7. toukokuuta 2013 11.25.27 UTC+2.00
> Vastaanottaja: Scheller Elisabeth <elisabeth.scheller at uit.no>, "ura-list at helsinki.fi" <ura-list at helsinki.fi>, Johansen Åse Mette <ase.mette.johansen at uit.no>, Inger Johansen <inger.johansen at ntnu.no>, Torkel Rasmussen <torkel.rasmussen at hotmail.com>, Hiss Florian <florian.hiss at uit.no>, Keränen Mari <mari.keranen at uit.no>, Mikael Vinka <mikael.vinka at samiska.umu.se>, Lindgren Anna-Riitta <anna-riitta.lindgren at uit.no>, Antonsen Lene <lene.antonsen at uit.no>, Bull Tove <tove.bull at uit.no>, Jon Todal <Jon.Todal at samiskhs.no>, Svonni Mikael <mikael.svonni at uit.no>, "brit.maehlum at ntnu.no" <brit.maehlum at ntnu.no>, Kivelä Suvi <suvi.kivela at narc.fi>, Hanna Outakoski <hanna.outakoski at samiska.umu.se>, Coppelie Cocq <coppelie.cocq at humlab.umu.se>, Sollid Hilde <hilde.sollid at uit.no>
> Kopio: Pekka Sammallahti <pekka.sammallahti at oulu.fi>
> 
> Dear Forum,
> 
> I have chosen to not dignify Professor Sammallahti’s attacks on the integrity of my research and my character in this forum or anywhere else for that matter. I stand by my research as one of many truths. If anyone on this list is interested in hearing my perspective, I will welcome direct and respectful questions and inquiries.
> 
> I am a mother of three young children and therefore respectfully ask that people keep this in mind when contacting me by phone or when waiting for an email response from me. I look forward to constructive dialogue on the meaningful and beneficial issues of our research and work in the fields of pedagogy and sociolinguistics.
>  
>  
> Best regards
>  
> Erika Katjaana Sarivaara
> 
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> 2013/5/7 Pekka Sammallahti <;pekka.sammallahti at oulu.fi>
> Dear receivers,
> 
> While I strongly disapprove of sending this circular by people who seem to be unaware of what is going on on the ethnic and ethnopolitical scene in Finland, let me make known that a detailed review of Sarivaara's thesis will be presented.
> 
> Let me also make it known that Sarivaara has been a leading figure in the fight against Saami self-determination in Finland and that her thesis is constantly used as a weapon in this fight. It is thus appropriate to treat it also as a political document and deal with its inadequacies and absurdities such as "non-status Saami" by the way of ironic humor.
> 
> Pekka Sammallahti
> PhD, Professor emeritus of Saami Language
> 
> 
> Quoting Scheller Elisabeth <elisabeth.scheller at uit.no>:
> 
> Dear Erika Sarivaara, members of the URA-list, and other research colleagues
> 
> Over the last couple of weeks, we have been made familiar with the  content of some discussions on Prof. Pekka Sammallahti's Facebook  site concerning Dr. Erika Sarivaara and her PhD thesis  Statuksettomat saamelaiset  <http://brage.bibsys.no/samall/bitstream/URN:NBN:no-bibsys_brage_30768/1/erikanettiversio18%206.pdf> Paikantumisia saamelaisuuden rajoilla<http://brage.bibsys.no/samall/bitstream/URN:NBN:no-bibsys_brage_30768/1/erikanettiversio18%206.pdf> (2012). In general, Sammallahti's site is none of our business and way beyond our interest. However, the current discussions of Sarivaara and her work signal such a striking absence of common decency that we find it necessary to point out the  following:
> 
> 
> In case anyone forgot: Sarivaara's thesis has been evaluated by a  scientific commitee of competent people in her field of research,  and it was accepted. Obviously, Sammallahti and some of his Facebook  friends find some aspects of Sarivaara's thesis problematic. That is  not problematic at all. What is problematic though, is their totally  disrespectful way of making fun of Sarivaara and her research in a  semiofficial forum on the Internet. Even her mental health has been  called into question.
> 
> In fact, the comments on Prof. Sammallahti's Facebook site say  nothing at all about Erika Sarivaara. What they do say, is that some  people who find themselves in front of the research field they  pursue, seem to lack: 1) social media competence, and 2) basic  understanding of research ethics.
> 
> In the future, we hope that the important questions that our  colleague raises in her thesis will be discussed in the  professional, scientific, and, last but not least, respectful way  that Sarivaara, like any other researcher, deserves.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Elisabeth Scheller
> PhD Student in Saami sociolinguistics
> University of Tromsø
> elisabeth.scheller at uit.no<mailto:elisabeth.scheller at uit.no>
> 
> 
> Åse Mette Johansen
> PhD Student in Nordic languages
> University of Tromsø
> ase.mette.johansen at uit.no<mailto:ase.mette.johansen at uit.no>
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