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On behalf of Trond Trosterud whose attempts did apparently not got
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<td>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:17:00 +0000</td>
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<td>Trosterud Trond <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:trond.trosterud@uit.no"><trond.trosterud@uit.no></a></td>
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My post to the list from yesterday may not have gone through, I
have at least not got it:
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<div>Trond.<br>
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<div>The best estimates on the number of speakers of both the
Sami languages and of Kven in Norway can be given by Torkel
Rasmussen. As for Kven:
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sans-serif; font-size: small; text-align: left;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ub.uit.no/baser/kvensk/advancedsearch.php?Creator=Rasmussen,%20Torkel&submit=search"
style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(127, 40, 95); ">Rasmussen,
Torkel</a></b></div>
<div><span style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: small; text-align: left;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Kuinka moni osaa
suomea ja kveeniä Pohjois-Norjassa? / s. 41-47 /</span><span
style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: small; text-align: left; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255); "> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ub.uit.no/baser/kvensk/advancedsearch.php?Date=2005&submit=search"
style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: small; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;
color: rgb(127, 40, 95); ">2005</a><span
style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: small; text-align: left; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255); "> </span><span style="font-family:
verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;
text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">/</span><span
style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: small; text-align: left; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255); "> </span><br style="font-family:
verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;
text-align: left; ">
<span style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: small; text-align: left;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Arina : nordisk
tidsskrift for kvensk forskning = pohjoismainen
kveenitutkimuksen aikakausjulkaisu / Nr 1 /</span><span
style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: small; text-align: left; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255); "> </span><br>
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<div>I have a copy of the article (but on the university).
The empirical material for this article is material
achieved as a byproduct from an investigation regarding
knowledge of North Saami in Norway, and some of the
follow-up questions given to Saami speakers were not given
to the Kven speakers. But this investigation is, as far as
I know, the best there is since the last Norwegian census
asking for language knowledge. I will not quote any
numbers without the article at hand, but as you can see,
an investigation thus exists.</div>
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<div>Some of the census data from the first half of the 20th
century are also treated in my article</div>
<div>Trond Trosterud: Language Assimilation During the
Modernisation Process: Experiences from Norway and
North-West Russia. 93-122. Acta Borealia (2008): Volume
25(2) (ref: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://site.uit.no/acta/category/trosterud-trond/">http://site.uit.no/acta/category/trosterud-trond/</a>)</div>
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<div>Now, I have Torkels article in front of me and cite, from
his page 41: Elleve present av befolkningen over 18 år i det
undersøkte området kan finsk. Seks prosejt har svart at de kan
kvensk. 13 prosent har opplyst at de kan enten finsk eller
kvensk eller begge deler.</div>
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<div>He then extrapolates the representative data, and get the
following absolute numbers (op.cit):</div>
<div>"[D]et er 10340 personer som kan finsk og 5640 som kan
kvensk. (...) Det totalet antallet personer som kan enten
kvensk eller finsk eller begge deler [er] 12220.</div>
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<div>The empirical basis fro the data is a telephone query done
by the Norwegian query company Opinion, by interviewing 5751
persons in potentially Sami municipalities (these
municipalities overlap with the Kven ones). The absolute
numbers are calculated by estimating that the sample is
representative.</div>
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<div>I recommend his article, it also breaks don the numbers
according to municipality, and e.g. shows that the largest
Finnish and/or Kven municipalities are Karasjok (32.9%),
Kautokeino (32,8%) and Tana (30.5%). In the two former
municipalities the respondents knowing Finnish and Kven also
know Sami, whereas in Tana, 250 of the 724 Finnish/Kven
speakers do not know Sami, whereas 477 know both Finnish/Kven
and Sami.</div>
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<div>Trond.</div>
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