<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">apologies for cross-postings – I tried to approve this message in the queue on the listserver, and it disappeared from there but doesn't show up in the mail archive yet, so chances are that you might get it twice, once the Helsinki server wakes up. Forwarded, perhaps for the second time, from Anne Tamm an invitation to the online lecture in the PARTE series, given by Renate Pajusalu, and information about the Kindred People's Month on Jupiter – not the planet but the free web channel of the Estonian public-service broadcasting company.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please note: all list members should be able to send their messages directly to the list address <a href="mailto:ura-list@helsinki.fi" class="">ura-list@helsinki.fi</a> . If your message doesn't get through, the usual reasons are (a) that you are sending your message from a different address than the one with which you subscribed the list, so the server doesn't recognize you; (b) that the message is too big. To reduce the size of the messages and avoid clogging people’s mailboxes, instead of attaching files to your messages please send links or copy-paste the text into the message body.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best</div><div class="">jl</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">--</div><div class="">Univ.Prof. Dr. Johanna Laakso</div><div class="">Universität Wien, Institut für Europäische und Vergleichende Sprach- und Literaturwissenschaft (EVSL)</div><div class="">Abteilung Finno-Ugristik</div><div class="">Campus AAKH Spitalgasse 2-4 Hof 7</div><div class="">A-1090 Wien</div><div class=""><a href="mailto:johanna.laakso@univie.ac.at" class="">johanna.laakso@univie.ac.at</a> • <a href="http://homepage.univie.ac.at/Johanna.Laakso/" class="">http://homepage.univie.ac.at/Johanna.Laakso/</a></div><div class="">Project ELDIA: <a href="http://www.eldia-project.org/" class="">http://www.eldia-project.org/</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></span></div></span></div></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Välitetty viesti alkaa:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Lähettäjä: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">anne tamm <<a href="mailto:annetamm@yahoo.com" class="">annetamm@yahoo.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydpde529ef6yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Dear all,<br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; min-height: 15px;" class="">The next PARTE ONLINE TALK is given by Renate Pajusalu (University of Tartu) at 4PM CET (Amsterdam, Budapest) on October 28th, 2022 </div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><b class="">Title: Elatives instead of partitives in Estonian Wh-questions</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; min-height: 15px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Join Zoom Meeting</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><span class="ydp528fe6d6s1" style="text-decoration-line: underline;"><a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86070063794?pwd=dzlrTnFTZHdLQVBtVVpqNm5oSnM0UT09" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86070063794?pwd=dzlrTnFTZHdLQVBtVVpqNm5oSnM0UT09</a></span></div><p class="ydp528fe6d6p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";"> </p><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Meeting ID: 860 7006 3794</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Passcode: 916435</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; min-height: 15px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Good to have a Finno-Ugric talk in October! </span></span>The abstract is attached. </div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Let me also call your attention to the free access to the program of the Days of the Kindred People (Hõimupäevad 2022) at the Estonian broadcasting company. As part of the celebrations of Hõimupäevad, the Fenno-Ugria Foundation in Estonia will be recommending a selection of programmes and films about Uralic indigenous peoples. These include many cultural anthropological documentaries on the ethnography of Uralic, Finno-Ugric peoples. You will find them on <b class="">jupiter.err.ee</b>, and you can find many if not all links copied below. The films and radio programs date from the 1970s and 1980s, mostly, but there are earlier and later ones as well. They include many already extinct peoples, such as the Kamass and Livonians, but also the Saami, Mansi, Komi, Khanty, Nenets, Nganasan, Selkup, Udmurt, Mari, Erzya, Moksha and many Finnic peoples plus much on Estonian dialects. Also for instance Ket among the Siberian folks. the Fenno-Ugria Foundation lets us know on the website that the Days of the Kindred People, Hõimupäevad, are the most important series of public events in Estonia that are organised by the Fenno-Ugria Foundation, to introduce Finno-Ugric peoples and to promote cooperation. The tradition of talking about kindred peoples and their cultures in the third week of October began in 1931, but was discontinued during the Soviet era. In 1988, the tradition was revived and since 2011, on the third Saturday of October it is celebrated as a national holiday.<span class="ydpf1ad8897Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">The films can be viewed outside of Estonia as well (at least in Vienna), for 20 or so more days from now. Mostly, the films are in Estonian, but some are without any extra text or little text, and some are in Russian.<span class="ydpf1ad8897Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; min-height: 15px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 20px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class=""><b class="">Hõimupäevad 2022</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144042/linnutee-tuuled" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144042/linnutee-tuuled</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144063/kaleva-haaled" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144063/kaleva-haaled</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; 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font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1145182/siberi-rahvaste-muusikat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1145182/siberi-rahvaste-muusikat</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1145180/suu-laulab-suda-muretseb" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1145180/suu-laulab-suda-muretseb</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1145170/folklooriansambel-hellero" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1145170/folklooriansambel-hellero</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1145177/viru-saru" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1145177/viru-saru</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144097/soome-ugri-kultuurikongress-tallinnas" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144097/soome-ugri-kultuurikongress-tallinnas</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144089/50-aastat-hiljem-liivi-rannas" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144089/50-aastat-hiljem-liivi-rannas</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144088/kop-nelja-tuule-retk-neenetsid" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144088/kop-nelja-tuule-retk-neenetsid</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144091/vestluskaalaseks-on-viimne-kamass" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144091/vestluskaalaseks-on-viimne-kamass</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144094/reis-solkuppide-maale" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144094/reis-solkuppide-maale</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1144096/raadioulikool-maailma-keelte-kaardi-ees" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://jupiter.err.ee/1144096/raadioulikool-maailma-keelte-kaardi-ees</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; color: rgb(220, 161, 13);" class=""><a href="https://jupiter.err.ee/1146496/heli-ja-keel-taevapodra-rahvaste-lood" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_6942530488">Jupiter | ERR</a></div></div><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; min-height: 15px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Best wishes,</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: "Helvetica Neue";" class="">Anne Tamm</div></div><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""></div></blockquote>
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Mis sa ta-st kiusa-d?
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negation of the sense of the proposition. It is a mixed construction, which consists of lexical,
morphological, and pragmatic elements. The aim is to analyse what motivates the formation of the
meaning of the construction.
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