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Hi Clancy Clements,<br>
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My guess is that in the first, the focus of causation is 'me' -- that is
the sentence would read "He made <u>me</u> eat the biscuit". In
the second, the focus of causation is 'the biscuit' -- that is the
sentence would read "He got <u>the biscuit</u> eaten through the
agency of me". But I'd like to hear what native speakers or
linguists working on these languages say about it. Could you send us a
summary of the replies, please?<br>
<br>
Gail Coelho<br>
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At 04:09 PM 12/27/01 -0500, J. Clancy Clements wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>In Kannada, one finds the dative
relation marked by the dative or the<br>
instrumental suffix, as in the examples below.<br>
<br>
Avanu-0 nana-ge bisket-annu tin-is-id-anu<br>
3SG-NOM 1SG-DAT biscuit-ACC eat-CAUS-PAST-3SG-MASC<br>
'He fed me the biscuit.'<br>
<br>
Avanu-0 nana-inda bisket-annu tin-is-id-anu<br>
3SG-NOM 1SG-INST biscuit-ACC eat-CAUS-PAST-3SG-MASC<br>
'He had me eat a biscuit.'<br>
<br>
This is the type of marking I'm interested in.<br>
<br>
<br>
My questions are:<br>
1) Regarding Malayalam, is there a difference in meaning (e.g. logical
or<br>
conversational implicatures) between marking an indirect object with
a<br>
dative or comitative marker? If so, how would one describe the
difference?<br>
<br>
2) Does Tamil have this type of marking, where the indirect object
is<br>
marked by a dative suffix or by an instrumental or comitative
suffix? If<br>
so, are there differences in meaning expressing by using one or the
other<br>
marker? If so, how would one describe them?<br>
<br>
3) Does Telegu also have this type of marking??<br>
<br>
Any information on these questions would be greatly appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks very much,<br>
<br>
<br>
Clancy Clements<br>
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