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<DIV>Well, 'mlle-chhya' and ' Firanghi'' are used by Historians to indicate "Whites'. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes, 'Gora [ singular] and Gore [plural] are not derogatory. These suggest words suggest a kind of respect. There were quite a good number of Gurkhas [Nepalese] in the British Army. These British Gurkhas use 'Gora or Gore Sahib' to express their loyality and admiration to the 'Whites'. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Likewise, 'kutte' and 'kamine' are not for British, These words are for any other Indians whatever. People use these word still today.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But, in Nepal white peoples are called 'Khaire[s]' {meaning 'brown' } for male and 'Khaireni[s] for females.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rana</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Mahajan, Gyanam" <mahajan@HUMNET.UCLA.EDU></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">VYAKARAN: South Asian Languages and Linguistics Net Editors: Tej K. Bhatia, Syracuse University, New York John Peterson, University of Osnabrueck, Germany Details: Send email to listserv@listserv.syr.edu and say: INFO VYAKARAN Subscribe:Send email to listserv@listserv.syr.edu and say: SUBSCRIBE VYAKARAN FIRST_NAME LAST_NAME (Substitute your real name for first_name last_name) Archives: http://listserv.syr.edu <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </STYLE> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
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div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Firangi or gora or gore log is not necessarily derogatory though – just refers to “white people”. I would imagine that they would have instead used common derogatory words like “kutte” or “kamine” or stronger words that are not specific to the “British”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gyanam Mahajan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">UCLA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> South Asian Linguists [mailto:VYAKARAN@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Allen W Thrasher<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:21 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> VYAKARAN@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Punjabi or Hindustani slurs on British?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">A film-maker is doing a film on the Komagatu Maru incident (the turning back of a ship of Indian immigrant farm workers from <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Vancouver</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">BC</st1:State></st1:place> in 1914).</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> She needs to know what slurs, slang, or derogatory words the Indians involved would have applied to the</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> British or
to the employees of the Immigration offices.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> I already suggested Ferenghi and Gora (log), but does anyone know any others?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial
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