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<body class='hmmessage'>> Did you ever find someone who accepted the construction outside of this <BR>> story context? <BR>
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Yes, but again usually only with oral materials. One work involved a narration track and in that they didn't mind such marked constructions, because it was someone speaking it. Also, even in written materials, we used it several times in speech quotes within the narrative. So if a character in a written story says it in a dialog, they had no problem with it.<BR>
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> And did you ever happen to see some intervening material <BR>> between the possessive and its phrase?<BR><BR>
sorry for shouting (with caps), but *ALL THE TIME*! <BR>
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And *that* works just fine in written materials (I'm actually writing a paper on this myself :-) But by way of teasers, here are a few examples (Kangri):<BR>
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<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG><FONT face="" color=#000000>इस बास्ते इह़नां गल्लां दा भ़ी तुसां जो बड़ा ध़्यान रखणा पौणा है।</FONT></STRONG></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG><FONT face="" color=#000000>is baste {ihnaa.n gallaa.n daa} bhii {tusaa.n jo} {baRaa dhyaan} rakhNaa pauNaa hai.</FONT></STRONG></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG><FONT face="" color=#000000>this reason these things GEN also you DAT great attention keep-INF-ms FORCE-INF-ms PRES-sg</FONT></STRONG></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>'For this reason, you must pay CLOSE ATTENTION to these things.'</FONT></STRONG></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG><FONT color=#000000></FONT></STRONG></SPAN> <BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><FONT face=Tahoma,Helvetica,Sans-Serif color=#000000>In this example, the "of these things" phrase is a genitive possessive phrase whose head noun is the later 'attention'. Notice that the dative subject 'you DAT' (as well as an the additive 'also') intervene between that possessive phrase and its head noun (or more likely, the possessive phrase was preponed before the subject). </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><FONT face=Tahoma,Helvetica,Sans-Serif color=#000000>The pragmatic effect of this movement is to give prominence to the head and its degree modifier 'close attention' (as shown by caps in the free translation), which remained in-situ.</FONT></SPAN><BR>
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<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG>इक्की ग्रांए दी दूए ग्रांए कन्नैं<SPAN dir=rtl></SPAN><SPAN dir=rtl><SPAN dir=rtl></SPAN> </SPAN>दुसमणी<SPAN dir=rtl></SPAN><SPAN dir=rtl><SPAN dir=rtl></SPAN> </SPAN>थी।</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG>ik-kii graa.ne dii duuee graa.ne kannai.n dusmaNii th-ii</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG>one-obl village GEN other village with emnity PAST-ms</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><BR>
<SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><STRONG>'There was EMNITY between one village and another.'</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><BR>
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