quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects

[Beverly Flanigan]

You're right; it's the same here at Ohio University, as far as I know.  But
the students take our Ling. courses as undergrads and then take no more
linguistics at the grad level.  The most unnerving part of having them in
classes is that they "just want the facts" and seem to resent being asked
to THINK about language, language issues, "what if" kinds of questions,
etc.  Phonology esp. bugs them; they only want basic phonetics, where messy
phenomena like elision, assimilation, and the like don't disrupt their
neat, clean paradigms.  Thus they sneer at locals who pronounce the next
town [lENGk at st@r] instead of [laenkaest at r].  Now you've got me on a roll,
and a bit off topic.  But this rigid prescriptivist mind-set is hard to
change!


At 10:45 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I do not know where you are from but the University of Florida Department of
>Speech Pathology and Audiology had a flat policy of not recommending BA's
>for positions in speech pathology or audiology.  The Master's was considered
>the entry-level degree in those fields and a CCC was required for any but
>temporary or probationary positions.   I reckon the BA's and Post Bac's
>could get a job in another field that did not require a recommendation from
>the University.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OAK.CATS.OHIOU.EDU>
>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:07 AM
>Subject: Re: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
>
>
>> I hope it still disapproves of such participation, but I fear many speech
>> path people get jobs in the public schools and clinics and work, overtly
>or
>> covertly, to "reduce" dialects.  The Hearing and Speech undergrads in our
>> school all want such jobs because they pay well; and when they take the
>one
>> or two Linguistics courses required of them they exhibit serious biases
>> against "local" or "ethnic" dialects and declare it their mission to
>> eradicate them (always for the good of the speakers, of course)!  Beware,
>> Beth!
>>
>>
>> At 09:31 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >A few decades ago when I was workingb on my master's in Speech/Language
>> >Pathology and Audiology, the ASLHA was quite disapproving of
>Speech/Language
>> >Pathologist participation in any "dialect-reduction" programs.  This
>> >position may have been a PC stand that went by the wayside because it was
>> >profitable (remember when the AMA considered "specialists" in
>bariatrics--
>> >sp?-- [weight reduction] to be quacks).
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Bradley, Beth M <Beth.M.Bradley at UWSP.EDU>
>> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:34 AM
>> >Subject: quest for info/suggestions. re: dialects
>> >
>> >
>> >> I am an Undergrad in Communication Disorders, with plans to get my
>masters
>> >> in Speech Language Pathology.  I have always been very interested in
>> >> dialects, and I'm curious if there is a career path(?) that leans
>towards
>> >> that area.
>> >> I'd appreciate any information anyone has, either e-mailed to me
>directly
>> >at
>> >> bbrad075 at uwsp.edu, or posted on the listserve.
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> -Beth Bradley
>> >
>