I've heard it once, some time during the 1970's; on the radio, from the newly-appointed head of the LA-area FBI office. The immediately-following e was pronounced as if it was ee. So far as I could tell, his native language was English. Dan Goodman dsgood at visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dsgood/index.html Whatever you wish for me, may you have twice as much.