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[Dennis R. Preston]

Everybody please go back and read Robin's why there can't be any some any
rule paper.

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>At 12:56 PM 12/7/00 +0800, you wrote:
>>At 12:30 PM -0500 12/7/00, Beverly Flanigan wrote:
>>>
>>>This is the partitive genitive, right?  I recall the term from French
>>>study, where 'des' would be used for "some (of an unspecified quantity of)
>>><plural noun>.  So, we can also say "I bought some books" with implied "of
>>>an unspecified quantity."  'Many', 'a few/few', 'any' work this way--others?
>>Actually, I'd argue (and have argued, following Milsark) that "I
>>bought some books" is not inherently partitive, as opposed to "I
>>bought some of the books" or "I eat SOME meats".  (The unstressed
>>non-partitive purely existential "some" of the first example is
>>sometimes indicated by "sm" in the literature.)  "Many" and "few"
>>have both these uses as well:  "He has many problems" doesn't
>>presuppose a pre-existent set of problems of which he has many (i.e.
>>a significant subset), and similarly for "She made few mistakes".
>>"He solved many/few of the problems" does have such a presupposition.
>>"Most", on the other hand, is always partitive or proportional (even
>>without a following "of the"), and "all" and "no"/"none" are as well.
>>
>>larry
>
>Thanks!  This was very helpful.  I was wondering about 'none' vs. 'any', in
>fact; I assume 'any' could be either partitive or not so?  "Did you buy any
>books?"  "No, I haven't bought any for years" vs. "Did you buy any (of
>those in a set)?" "No, I bought none (of that set)."
>
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Dennis R. Preston
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