Dennis R. Preston
preston at PILOT.MSU.EDU
Wed Dec 12 20:33:06 UTC 2001
Well, I take back some of my stress-rlaated vowel-quality ramblings.
I was thinking only of the schwa versus [I] pronunciation, but some
people have pointed out (and I have certainly heard) an [i]
pronunciation but with a following voiced consonant. I wonder now
(and this is surely lexical) if you can get [i] without a voiced
consonant? - [-is]. I think I have never heard it.
>The discussion is proceeding as if the variant under discussion is just a
>vowel, but as DInIs points out, stress also appears to be a variable here.
>It appears that in American English we tend not to have the lax vowel if
>that syllable has secondary/tertiary stress. Or maybe it's strong syllable
>versus weak syllable. Anyway, this is probably a lexical rather than
>phonological thing. Are there any other disease names that manifest this
>variation? I can't think of any.
>> From: "Dennis R. Preston" <preston at PILOT.MSU.EDU>
>> Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:14:12 -0500
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: diabetes
>> Ya'll should remember that some schwa-like sounds are more [I] like
>> in southern speech. If one does not give some stress to the last
>> syllable (permitting [i]), it's going to end up as a schwa; if that
>> schwa is more /I/ like, some of y'all northerners might have been
>> fooled. That is, it may simply be vowel reduction with regional
>> quality variation.
>> On the other hand, that variation may have led to "real" /I/
>> pronunciations (although that would seem to require some degree of
>> stress). (I just noticed I called the phoneme rather than the phone
>> "real." Heaven help me!)
>> Of course, "medical -itis" (the spelling only) may also play a role here.
>> dInIs (who always notes the more [I]-like pronunciation of his last
>> syllable, even when unstressed, the farther south he goes)
>> PS: I'm just jerkin y'all around by putting the apostrophe in
>> different places in ya'll. Y'all don't need to write in about it no
>>>> For what it's worth, I've seen the spelling "diabetis" fairly
>>>> regularly from certain posters on the usenet diabetes support groups.
>>>> I've never understood where this came from, as it's certainly not
>>>> something I've noticed here in the northeast. One particular poster,
>>>> who used to use this spelling *a lot* is a good enough writer that
>>>> the "mis-spelling" really stood out. She's lived in Alaska most of
>>>> her adult life, but, if I remember the autobiographical details she's
>>>> posted correctly, she grew up in Michigan (I'm not sure where).
>>> This gets weirder. I've never seen the *spelling* "diabetis", just the
>>> pronunciation. But then, I may not be reading the right kind of
>>> Anne G
>> Dennis R. Preston
>> Department of Linguistics and Languages
>> Michigan State University
>> East Lansing MI 48824-1027 USA
>> preston at pilot.msu.edu
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Dennis R. Preston
Department of Linguistics and Languages
Michigan State University
East Lansing MI 48824-1027 USA
preston at pilot.msu.edu
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