Milk Bar (corrected)

[Jan Ivarsson]

The Swedish word "mjölkbar" (a place where one can get milk drinks and simple food) is attested in an article in the Svenska Dagbladet in 1930. The Dictionary of the Swedish Academy http://g3.spraakdata.gu.se/saob/saob4.shtml says the word is a loan from the English "milk bar", but gives no source.
Jan Ivarsson, Sweden

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis R. Preston" <preston at PILOT.MSU.EDU>
To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: den 3 januari 2001 14:21
Subject: Re: Milk Bar (corrected)


> >Is there any chance that Milk Bar is a calque from Polish (Bar
> >Mleczny)? Milk Bars ("plain food joints" - not just milk products)
> >are so designated there.
>
> dInIs
>
> >    Greetings from New York City.  The "Milk Bar" posting was rushed (hey, I
> >made my plane) and I wrote 1936 instead of 1935.  Here goes again:
> >
> >>From OED:
> >20 November 1935, FORRES GAZ--The milk bar, or place where milk drinks are
> >sold, is a popular institution all over Australia and plans are on foot for
> >installing them in Britain.
> >
> >November 1934 Melbourne telephone directory
> >    I didn't see "Milk Bar" in a quick check of it.
> >
> >>From SYDNEY MORNING HERALD index ("Milk Bar" head):
> >3 August 1935, pg. 16a--Opened in Fleet-street by Hugh D. McIntosh.
> >28 November 1935, pg. 12c--Mr. Hugh D. McIntosh opens a second milk bar in
> >the stock exchange building (London).
> >
> >UPCOMING:  I'll try to meet Frank Abate for lunch when I head up to CT to
> >research the "grinder."
> >    I'll continue my nationwide yellow pages "phonebook food" series and check
> >for California sushi roll (Los Angeles 1970s), Buffalo wings (Buffalo,
> >1960s-1970s), chimichanga (Tucson, 1960s), hoagie (Philadelphia, 1940s),
> >grinder (New London and New Haven, CT, 1950s)and more.
>
> --
> Dennis R. Preston
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