CLIK/CLEEK & NATIVE SPEAKER [was "FAG one last time"]

James Smith jsmithjamessmith at YAHOO.COM
Thu Mar 15 15:15:54 UTC 2001

--- Lynne Murphy <lynnem at COGS.SUSX.AC.UK> wrote:

> I haven't noticed anyone saying 'clique', but for
> the record, as an
> American, I would not say 'cleek'.  To me, the
> pronunciation of 'clique' is
> equivalent to 'click'.  I might say the vowel a
> little bit higher/tenser,
> but certainly nothing like 'cleek'.
> > Ultimately, of course, all pronunciations come
> from the mouths of
> > speakers (native and otherwise). I guess the
> "native speakers" would
> > attribute their pronunciations to their mothers,
> if "mother tongue" has
> > any meaning left. So where does all this lead and
> which WORKING (not
> > just theorizing) lexicographer has the time?
> I wouldn't attribute my pronunciations to my
> mother--especially for a word
> like 'clique'-- but to a range of influences,
> including and especially
> peers, educators, and media.
> Lynne

I was introduced to the word 'clique' and taught to
pronounce it as 'clik' by my Canada-born and educated
eighth-grade English teacher.

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