Teaching With a Kentucky Accent

FRITZ JUENGLING juengling_fritz at SALKEIZ.K12.OR.US
Mon Dec 9 21:18:58 UTC 2002

Wow! Amazing how distorted things can be! I think Curt and his band, Nirvana, were from Seattle, the alleged home of grunge, which is what I think you are describing. As far as sounding like surfers--I don't think so. I can't imagine anyone trying to sound like a surfer here. That's just a different culture.  (Also, the water's too cold to be into surfing, unless you have a thick wet suit).  I guess we Oregonians are just 'out there' (i.e. West) and are largely unknown.  That's just fine.

>>> millie-webb at CHARTER.NET 12/09/02 11:44AM >>>
Oregonians -- to the extent that Michiganders knew of their existence --
were thought to be obsessive skateboarding (some drug-using) Curt Cobain
fans (or however he spelled it), who dressed in at least half-rags, and
tried to sound like surfers, when they spoke in multiple syllables at all.
As I say, young Gen-X subculture types.  This was the stereotype I heard the
most at the time.  Then again, the classmates I spoke of were in Education
(sorry, I think I said English), and Michiganders tended to be quite
snobbish when it came to having a corner on the "correctness" market.  As
dEnIs has pointed out before.  I find it very odd that a people who
pronounce "milk" as [mElk], Wisconsin as [wEsconsIn], and have to say "ink
pen" for "pen", because they say [pIn] for "pen", claim to be the seat of
SAE.  Drove me nuts at the time, although I have since then decided it is
just "cute" and amusing.  :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fritz Juengling" <Friolly at AOL.COM>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Teaching With a Kentucky Accent

> Out of curiosity, how were Oregonians stereotyped?  I didn't know anyone
> East ever even thought of Oregon.
> Fritz
> > Those vowel shifts seemed to be related to East Coast
> > city shifts, or West Coast bumpkin shifts (in the class's estimation at
> > time, that included "ValleySpeak", surfers, counter-culture Gen X
> > skateboarders, and other such stereotyped sub-groupings of Californians
> > Oregonians.
> >
> >

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