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[James A. Landau]

In a message dated 01/31/2002 12:08:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lancedm at MISSOURI.EDU writes:

> > From: Benjamin Fortson <fortson at FAS.HARVARD.EDU>
>  .....
>  > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:46:16 -0500
>  ......
>  > Well, even in "iced donut" you're not *really* "voicing halfway through a
>  > stop", since the main difference between voiced and voiceless stops is
>  > voice onset time, i.e., how long after release of the stop closure you
>  > start vibrating your vocal folds: it's quicker in the case of voiced
>  > stops. Thus what one writes or thinks of as a geminate d is no different
>  > from a geminate t until a few milliseconds after the closure.
>
>  My ear and my speech mechanisms tell me that the /t/ at the end of the
first
>  syllable is glottalized and the first syllable is temporally short, as
>  English demands, before the voiceless stop. And then, as Ben points out,
the
>  voice onset follows immediately after release of the stop in the second
>  syllable, thereby indicating a preceding "voiced" stop -- phonotactic rules
>  of English. So the gemination here is emic rather than etic.
>

Just one question: what about do aspirated versus unaspirated stops?

      - Jim Landau