continents, flags, confederacy, yellow rose

FRITZ JUENGLING juengling_fritz at SMTPGATE.SALKEIZ.K12.OR.US
Fri Feb 22 22:23:18 UTC 2002


 >    First, the "South" is those 13 states which had stars on the Confederate >battle flag (the one with the St. Andrew's cross).  Hence the South includes >Maryland, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Texas but excludes the slave states of >Missouri and Delaware.

The 13th (or 12th) star on the confederate flag did not represent Maryland. It represented Missouri.  Both Missouri and Kentucky had representatives in both Congresses.  No way was Lincoln going to let Maryland 'go south.'  Although the confeds certainly hoped Maryland would secede, they gave up hope early on.


>The topic is flying the Confederate flag over a certain state capitol.  The >flag in question is the St. Andrew's cross (the Confederate battle flag, which >was never the official flag of the Confederacy.)  The news media, however, >has frequently referred to the flag in question as the "Stars and Bars", >which was the original official CSA flag but which maybe one Southerner in >ten might recognize.

The "Stars and Bars" looked very similar to the "Stars and Stripes" so it was changed to the "Stainless Banner."  However, the flag that has been flown over several capitols is not probably the battle flag either--it is the naval jack.  The battle flag, as every re-enactor knows, was square.  Those around today are all rectangular.

A do have a question, though.  I have heard from several people, independently, that the 'yellow rose' in the song "The Yellow Rose of Texas" was a black woman.  Can anyone corroborate or refute this?  Has 'yellow rose' been a slang term for 'black woman'?  If not, how would anyone know and what difference would it make?
Appreciate any comments.
thanks,
Fritz



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