of likely interest to NYers only

[Laurence Horn]

At 8:23 AM -0500 3/6/02, Michael Newman wrote:
>>At 3:08 PM -0600 3/5/02, Matthew Gordon wrote:
>>>Can you specify which NCS features you've noticed?
>>>On a more general note, are NYers (nonlinguists) aware of the NCS as a
>>>stereotype of, say, Buffalo or Rochester?
>>>
>>Well, more of Chicago, I think.  But there's an awareness, at least
>>on the part of many non-linguists.  I've heard a couple of
>>mock-Northern Cities pronunciations on sports highlight shows to
>>denote "Chicago".
>>
>>larry
>
>I agree with Larry. When I mention Chicago, some of my students will
>front the vowel in the name. I also heard this in LA.
>
>As for our Great Lakes subway voice:
>There is a fronted /a/ in 'stop' and lowered vowel in 'Wall,' as well
>as tensed /ae/s in places where NYers don't tense. There don't seem
>to be any of the later shifts.
>
Maybe she's a New Yorker who's modeling herself after the renowned
New York tough guy Lieut. Andy Sipowicz in NYPD Blue (= Dennis Franz,
who must be from Chicago, or someplace like it, in real life)