Manner/manor dilemma?

Richard Gage rgage at INTRAH.ORG
Wed Mar 13 17:16:27 UTC 2002


On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 at 10:44:26,  Laurence Horn wrote:

     Elsie Fogerty . . . 'taught her [Irene Worth] to speak "stage
     English," as if to-the-manner -- and manor -- born . . . (Note
     . . . the Times's solution to the manner/manor dilemma.)

What is this "manner/manor dilemma" you refer to?  I looked for more in
the postings, but didn't find anything.  Where can I go to read more
about it?  By strange coincidence I came across this very phrase the
other day in E.L. Doctorow's first-person narrative "Billy Bathgate."  I
just assumed Billy didn't know any better.

TO THE MANNER BORN

1989 E. L. DOCTOROW, _Billy Bathgate_. Chapter 7, pp.93-94.
"But anyway I put forty dollars in her pocketbook that night, which left
me with a little over twenty-five.  I found I was getting used to these
big sums, handling these bills as if I was to the manner born.  It is
true that you get accustomed to money very quickly, that the
miraculousness of the idea of it wears away and it becomes
unremarkable.  Yet my mother's salary at the laundry was twelve dollars
a week and that money remained miraculous in my mind, which is to say
valuable in the old way, as my own earnings by their profligacy were
not."



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