One more variation: the Army, and possibly the other services, have been using "Oh" dark thirty for years for the time before dawn (actually, probably before BMNT.) Dave Hause, dwhause at jobe.net Ft. Leonard Wood, MO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barnhart" <ADS-L at HIGHLANDS.COM> noon-thirty (or noon:30) in reference to time. Regards, David Barnhart