Canoodle: odds and ends
Patty Davies
patty at CRUZIO.COM
Fri Nov 15 16:02:46 UTC 2002
This ("honky") is again different for me. I say and am sure I have always
heard:
"donkey" /'dawnk ee/
"monkey" /'muhn kee/
"honky" /'hawnk ee/
and you pronounce "honky" as /'huhn kee'/ which is "hunky" to me. So you
pronounce "honky" and "hunky" the same way? And I also find it *very*
interesting that the politically incorrect words rhyme. I wonder how
widespread the pronunciation is so that this rhyming is the case. You
would think this would have been picked up on for a sociolinguistic study
(oooh, a new research project :) ).
Patty
At 10:32 AM 11/15/02 -0500, James A. Landau wrote:
>In a message dated 11/15/02 10:11:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>laurence.horn at YALE.EDU writes:
>
> > >This is interesting, I have *never* heard donkey rhyme with monkey!
> >
> > Meanwhile, back on the East Coast, I rhyme them with impunity. But
> > "honky" rhymes with neither, so it's a matter of lexical diffusion
> > rather than purely a phonological matter. (The adjective "wonky"
> > rhymes with "honky", but then unlike the others it has an internal
> > morpheme boundary.)
>
>I rhyme "donkey" with "monkey", i.e. /'duhn kee/, but I find /'dawnk ee/ or
>/'dahnk ee/ acceptable. (And yes I do hear the /k/ move across the syllable
>boundary, though I do not have the knowledge of phonetics to say why this
>happens).
>
>However, in my experience "honky" meaning "whte, usually disparaging" also
>rhymes with "monkey". Yes, the two politically incorrect words rhyme. I
>can't recall ever haing heard /'hawnk ee/ or /'hahnk ee/ in this sense. Yes,
> /'hawnk ee 'tawnk/, but here this is probably to make the first and last
>syllables rhyme.
>
>Raised in Louisville KY, college in Michigan, than living in DC and South
>Jersey for 33 years.
>
> - Jim Landau
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