"man" vs. "guy" redux

[Beverly Flanigan]

But 'youse' alone is common on the East Coast; my in-laws in Baltimore used
it all the time.

At 09:41 PM 11/20/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>And then there is the U.P. (Upper Peninsula of Michigan) gender neutral
>pronoun, "youse guys" and "youse guys's"  (yes, I have heard even that
>second one on enough occasions from more than one person, to actually label
>it "productive" as a dialectal phrasing, and not just one confused person's
>last-second scramble.)  And you can't (for the most part anyway) use just
>"youse" in the UP, in my experience: it has to be "youse guys".  -- Millie
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Herbert Stahlke" <hstahlke at WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:14 PM
>Subject: Re: "man" vs. "guy" redux
>
>
> > My point exactly.  As I went on to say, "you guys", as a form of address,
>is
> > a periphrastic 2p, not the lexical "guy".  I can say "you guys" to a group
> > of women, but I can't point to a group of women and say to someone else,
> > "See those guys?".
> >
> > Herbb
> >