My old buddy the archiphoneme
Herbert Stahlke
hstahlke at WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sun Sep 22 01:33:09 UTC 2002
Naah. I've got five diphthongs to your three.
Herb
>
> Nonsense; you've conflated the vowels of "hoarse" and "horse" and
> haven't distinguished /w/ from /hw/ for decades or more. Moral
> superiority in phoneme-counting and/or partial neutralization is only
> a figment of the self-important Michigan esteem for its own deficient
> dialect.
>
> dInIs
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dennis R. Preston"
> >
> >> Definitely not an archiphoneme (though it warms my heart to see the
> >> word early on Saturday morning). Not all neutralization is
> >> archiphonemic. In this case the merger of /O/ and /a/ (as in most
> >> western US dialects, Eastern New England and a growing band across
> >> the Midland) does not result in an archiphoneme; it simply results in
> >> phoneme loss. I have one more phoneme than such speakers (and clearly
> >> a great deal of moral superiority by possessing it).
> >
> >One more phoneme! What moral superiority! I guess since my SE Mich
dialect
> >has phonemicized Canadian Raising before /d/, /nd/, and in open
syllables,
> >and I don't have the /O/ /a/ merger, your moral superiority is trumped.
> >Don't mess with native Michiganders.
> >
> >Herb
>
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