On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, James A. Landau wrote: <insert tongue firmly in cheek> #The pronunciation shift of /y/ to /dzh/ is still active though incomplete in #English, e.g. #/'dohn joo/ for "don't you", /chren/ for "train", and /'ei sh'n/ for #"-ation". # # - Jim (Iim?) Landau Not Landav? -- Mark M.