/zh/ replacing /dzh/?

[Mandy Adkins]

Elegant vs. inelegant plays a role in almost every aspect of our lives.
Things totally depend on our current environment.

Quoting "Dennis R. Preston" <preston at PILOT.MSU.EDU>:

> In spite of my many years, I have never uttered the string "greasy
> vase."
>
> dInIs
>
> >At 7:17 AM -0400 9/26/02, Dennis R. Preston wrote:
> >>I wonder if further prodding of these students might bring out the
> >>fact that form/shape (elegant vs. inelegant) might also play some
> >>role?
> >>
> >>dInIs
> >
> >No doubt; also, if it's greasy, and especially if it's greazy, it's a
> VEYS.
> >
> >>
> >>>At 7:09 PM -0400 9/25/02, Dennis R. Preston wrote:
> >>>>larry,
> >>>>
> >>>>Does this mean I take my beater to the /gradzh/ but the chateau has
> >>>>an attached /garazh/?
> >>>>
> >>>>dInIs
> >>>>
> >>>>This is not entirely with tongue-you-know-where; s I grew up (in
> >>>>Loo at vul), I came to have a meaning for /grisI/ which suggested a
> fine
> >>>>or delicate oil and reserved /grizI/ for the unmarked sense - You
> >>>>been workin on the car and are all greasy.
> >>>
> >>>Actually, the last time I brought up the VAHZ/VEYS distinction in
> >>>Dialects class, it was during the discussion of an article on
> >>>greasy/greazy (Atwood's classic from 1950) in which the point you
> >>>make was made, although in that case different speakers who have a
> >>>semantic distinction appear to draw it at different places, or should
> >>>I say textures or functions, which appears not to be true for the
> >>>more monotonic variation on the flower-holding object, where the only
> >>>relevant parameter is how expensive it has to be to count as a VEYS.
> >>>
> >>>larry
> >>>
> >>>>>...According to my students, it depends on the value/price.  Over
> $300
> >>>>>or so, it's a VAHZ.  Otherwise, just a VEYS.  I guess that may be
> >>>>>seen as going along with "affectation".
> >>>>>
> >>>>>larry
> >>
> >>--
> >>Dennis R. Preston
> >>Professor of Linguistics
> >>Department of Linguistics & Germanic, Slavic,
> >>      Asian & African Languages
> >>Michigan State University
> >>East Lansing, MI 48824-1027
> >>e-mail: preston at msu.edu
> >>phone: (517) 353-9290
>
> --
> Dennis R. Preston
> Professor of Linguistics
> Department of Linguistics & Germanic, Slavic,
>       Asian & African Languages
> Michigan State University
> East Lansing, MI 48824-1027
> e-mail: preston at msu.edu
> phone: (517) 353-9290
>