"It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over"
Fred Shapiro
fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Thu Dec 25 01:38:47 UTC 2003
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Sam Clements wrote:
> If you subscribe to the theory(as I do) that the phrase is a play on "It
> ain't over 'til the [fat][church]lady sings," then Berra probably didn't say
> it in 1973, or even before 1976 or so.
>
> If you think Berra used it in 1973, then one could assume that the
> 'fat/church lady' was a play on Berra. But I doubt it.
I've done a lot of research on "the fat lady sings" and on Berraisms, and
it never occurred to me that one of these was a play on the other; I just
figured they were independent synonymous sayings.
Since my previous e-mail, I have found a 1977 usage of "ain't over..." on
Nexis.
Fred Shapiro
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