what's M.Phil.?

[Wendalyn Nichols]

An M.Phil is also a legitimate two-year degree in England; it's what I got
at Oxford. It's kind of a hybrid between their traditional undergraduate
tutorial system, which involves weekly tutorials, seminar papers, and a
barrage of examinations but usually no thesis;  and the D.Phil, which is
basically the degree you get after you take three years to write a doctoral
thesis of about 250-300 pages. The M.Phil is both taught and examined, like
the undergrad degree, and requires a thesis of around 150-200 pags.

Wendalyn

At 04:30 PM 2/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Laurence Horn" <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:11 PM
>Subject: Re: what's M.Phil.?
>
>
> > >Hello!
> > >Is there anyone who can tell me what an "M.Phil." is? it sounds like an
> > >accademic title... but i am not sure.
> > >
> > Master of Philosophy.  As the title implies, it's on the same scale
> > as PhD ("Doctor of Philosophy") but further down.  At many
> > universities, it's what you get if you are a candidate for a PhD,
> > having completed all requirements but (and that's a big "but")
> > writing your dissertation.  (The "philosophy" here is not necessarily
> > philosophy, any more than it is in PhD.)  Informally, this is
> > sometimes referred to as "ABD" = 'all but dissertation', but the
> > latter is not an actual degree.
> >
> > Larry Horn
>
>I was about to say what Larry says.
>
>A related question if I may: I have often wondered what L.Ph. (sometimes
>Ph.L.) stands for in the States. I know it is common in Canada; it's in the
>list of abbreviations at the end of Canadian Who's Who, U. of T. Press,
>which also has M.Ph.,  though no M.Phil., but the full form of L.Ph. is
>given as Licence en Philosophe (probably from Laval U.) whereas Ph.L. is
>"Licentiate in Philosophy" (no idea from where). To digress a little about
>values, I am reminded of someone who mentioned his "First Class Honours"
>B.A. to
>a dean of admissions at Wayne State U. (no offence to Wayne Staters) and
>after being told the actual marks, he commented, "Just made the grade, uh"?
>
>Tom Paikeday
>www.paikeday.net