At 1:32 PM -0400 7/18/03, Frank Abate wrote: > Older ones, such New Haven as "The Elm City" (most of >the elms are gone now, of course), often are still in commercial use -- in >this case, there is an Elm City brewery (and ale) in New Haven. Well, there *was*. Now, alas, as dead as most of the elms. larry