Ron Butters' offer to publish some of Barry's material

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Mar 11 05:02:57 UTC 2003


Oh, and "Big Apple", of course.  That's three rather hefty chapters
right there.

L


At 9:47 PM -0600 3/10/03, Gerald Cohen wrote:
>Ron,
>
>   I'll give some thought to this and look for Barry's input of
>course. A thorough treatment of "hot dog" would probably take a
>volume in itself, but for the sake of your proposed book could appear
>in abbreviated form. In any case, any book which compiles some of
>Barry's extraordinary research should be a worthwhile endeavor.
>
>Gerald Cohen
>
>
>>Date:         Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:12:13 EST
>>From: RonButters at AOL.COM
>>Subject:      Re:       Re: "Windy City" wrong in NY TIMES BOOK
>>REVIEW(3-9-03)
>>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>
>>I agree. It could be a great PADS volume. I would LOVE to be Barry's editor
>>for a book like that (I AM SERIOUS). If Barry doesn't have time to pull it
>>together himself, how about if someone like Jerry collaborate with him?
>>(Please, though, not TOO much about the myths of cheese names!)
>>
>>In a message dated 3/10/03 7:50:51 PM, laurence.horn at YALE.EDU writes:
>>
>>>  At 6:45 PM -0500 3/10/03, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
>>>  >    Could someone write on my behalf to the NEW YORK TIMES?  The NEW
>>>  >YORK SUN?  How many years must this go on?  My work was/is in the
>>>  >WALL STREET JOURNAL, the Straight Dope web site, World Wide Words
>>>  >web site, the Weather Doctor's web site, and the USA TODAY weather
>>>  >guy's web site.  And, especially, here on the American Dialect
>>>  >Society site.  MUST THIS HAPPEN EVERY DAY????
>>>
>>>  It does seem to happen every day, to Barry and in a sense to all of
>>>  us.  If Barry weren't so diligent about turning up these cites, it
>>>  would be less painful, I'm sure.  But there must have been almost as
>>>  many references to the umpteen words for snow in Eskimo before Geoff
>>>  Pullum published his book _The Great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax, and
>>>  other irreverent essays on the study of language_ (U. of Chicago
>>>  Press, 1991).  I'm not sure the appearance of the book has made a
>>>  sizable dent in the citation practice, but at least when it happens
>>>  now there's a place to refer culprits to for enlightenment.  (I just
>>>  did so to our Unitarian minister, and she seems pleased to have been
>>>  set straight on the subject.)  A book (perhaps with apposite
>>>  illustrations) including the "Windy City" and "hot dog" follies and
>>>  countless others, presented as a case of linguistic detective work,
>>>  might be just the thing.  At least when a solid demonstration is
>>>  offered in book form published by a major house, it's nothing to be
>>>  sneezed at.  And consider, as another parallel, the wonderful and
>>>  very well received recent compilation _Language Myths_, edited by
>>>  Laurie Bauer and Peter Trudgill (Penguin, 1998).  So how about a book
>>>  on false attributions--Barry?  Jerry?  anyone?
>>>
>>>  larry



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