Ron Butters' offer to publish some of Barry's material
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Mar 11 05:02:57 UTC 2003
Oh, and "Big Apple", of course. That's three rather hefty chapters
right there.
L
At 9:47 PM -0600 3/10/03, Gerald Cohen wrote:
>Ron,
>
> I'll give some thought to this and look for Barry's input of
>course. A thorough treatment of "hot dog" would probably take a
>volume in itself, but for the sake of your proposed book could appear
>in abbreviated form. In any case, any book which compiles some of
>Barry's extraordinary research should be a worthwhile endeavor.
>
>Gerald Cohen
>
>
>>Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:12:13 EST
>>From: RonButters at AOL.COM
>>Subject: Re: Re: "Windy City" wrong in NY TIMES BOOK
>>REVIEW(3-9-03)
>>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>
>>I agree. It could be a great PADS volume. I would LOVE to be Barry's editor
>>for a book like that (I AM SERIOUS). If Barry doesn't have time to pull it
>>together himself, how about if someone like Jerry collaborate with him?
>>(Please, though, not TOO much about the myths of cheese names!)
>>
>>In a message dated 3/10/03 7:50:51 PM, laurence.horn at YALE.EDU writes:
>>
>>> At 6:45 PM -0500 3/10/03, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
>>> > Could someone write on my behalf to the NEW YORK TIMES? The NEW
>>> >YORK SUN? How many years must this go on? My work was/is in the
>>> >WALL STREET JOURNAL, the Straight Dope web site, World Wide Words
>>> >web site, the Weather Doctor's web site, and the USA TODAY weather
>>> >guy's web site. And, especially, here on the American Dialect
>>> >Society site. MUST THIS HAPPEN EVERY DAY????
>>>
>>> It does seem to happen every day, to Barry and in a sense to all of
>>> us. If Barry weren't so diligent about turning up these cites, it
>>> would be less painful, I'm sure. But there must have been almost as
>>> many references to the umpteen words for snow in Eskimo before Geoff
>>> Pullum published his book _The Great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax, and
>>> other irreverent essays on the study of language_ (U. of Chicago
>>> Press, 1991). I'm not sure the appearance of the book has made a
>>> sizable dent in the citation practice, but at least when it happens
>>> now there's a place to refer culprits to for enlightenment. (I just
>>> did so to our Unitarian minister, and she seems pleased to have been
>>> set straight on the subject.) A book (perhaps with apposite
>>> illustrations) including the "Windy City" and "hot dog" follies and
>>> countless others, presented as a case of linguistic detective work,
>>> might be just the thing. At least when a solid demonstration is
>>> offered in book form published by a major house, it's nothing to be
>>> sneezed at. And consider, as another parallel, the wonderful and
>>> very well received recent compilation _Language Myths_, edited by
>>> Laurie Bauer and Peter Trudgill (Penguin, 1998). So how about a book
>>> on false attributions--Barry? Jerry? anyone?
>>>
>>> larry
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