beyond the pail [sic]

[Beverly Flanigan]

And that's where we get fence "palings," right?  Or did the fence posts
come first?

At 04:21 PM 3/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>RE: "beyond the pail" said jokingly for "beyond the Pale of
>Settlement"--it's always interested me that there was a Pale in Russia
>beyond which Jews could settle, and one in Ireland beyond the English domain
>around Dublin (where there was a slum called "Irishtown.")
>
>Merriam-Webster online gives "4 : an area or the limits within which one is
>privileged or protected (as from censure) <conduct that was beyond the
>pale>"
>
>"BEYOND THE PALE" refers to the provinces in Russia where Jews were forced
>to live during the 18th and 19th centuries, called "The Pale of Settlement."
>[http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/beyond-the-pale/english/why.html]
>
>In 1169, barely a century after the Norman invasion of Celtic/Saxon Britain
>gave rise to the entity of England, the expansionist feudal lords of England
>invaded neighboring Ireland, thereby beginning a history of Irish national
>resistance to foreign domination, now in its ninth century. For the first
>450 years after the invasion, a Hibernicized Anglo-Irish aristocracy
>administered the area of Dublin and its surrounding "Pale" (the ring of land
>around Dublin within which the English were able to enforce their rule),
>while traditional Irish chieftains received feudal titles from English
>overlords, but maintained a semblance of native Irish society. Periodically
>the Irish clans rose in revolt against English domination, the last and most
>dramatic being the insurrection of the O'Neills of Ulster against Queen
>Elizabeth I during the 1560s. The failed rebellion contributed a host of
>aristocratic Irish emigres to France, and frightened the English
>sufficiently to cause them to seek more secure methods of controlling their
>colonial territory of Ireland.
>[http://irsm.org/general/history/beyondthepale.htm]