Will that be pop, soda or a soft drink?

[Peter A. McGraw]

Well, so much for long memories!  Mark is absolutely right, and I was only
half  right (or would that be a third?--I claim almost zero memory for
arithmetic).

Peter Mc.

--On Monday, March 17, 2003 4:15 PM -0500 Mark A Mandel <mam at THEWORLD.COM>
wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Peter A. McGraw wrote:
>
># Doesn't anyone but me remember having grade school English teachers
># describe [ae] as "short a" and [a:] as "long a"?
>
> (raises hand halfway)
>                 grade school name
>         /ae/    short A
>         /ey/    long A
>         /a:/    [no name]
>
> "The long vowels say their own names." That was the rule, well dinned
> in, in my 50s grade schooling.
>
> graph   "short" "long"
> a       /ae/    /ey/
> e       /E/     /i:/
> i       /I/     /ay/
> o       /a/     /o:/
> u       /^/     /ju:/
>
> -- Mark A. Mandel



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                               Peter A. McGraw
                   Linfield College   *   McMinnville, OR
                            pmcgraw at linfield.edu