/Z/ and /dZ/

[Dennis R. Preston]

>larry,

Must you be so direct; see my message.

dInIs



>At 10:03 AM -0500 3/22/03, Mai Kuha wrote:
>>Maybe this isn't related to the issue of final /Z/, but I could have sworn I
>>heard Rumsfeld say "regime" with /dZ/ last night, and so I wonder if the
>>choice between /Z/ and /dZ/ might go beyond class: doesn't "regime" with
>>/dZ/ sound so much more patriotic?
>>
>>-Mai
>
>
>And, crucially, less French.
>
>L
>
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>>On 3/21/03 9:20 PM, Herbert Stahlke opined:
>>
>>>  It's pretty widely known that some English speakers have /Z/ only
>>>  intervocalically and /dZ/ finally, initial /Z/ being educated usage and
>>>  rare.  Last week I graded a phonetics project involving vowel
>>>tensing before
>>>  alveo-palatals, and from the tapes and the demographic information the
>>>  students had recorded it was the /Z/ vs. /dZ/ choice in final
>>>position was a
>>>  class marker.  All of the speakers who had no final /Z/ were working class.
>>>
>>>  This was a small sample, about 35 speakers in all, and nearly all
>>>drawn from
>>>  the Muncie area, so I wouldn't want to generalize to readily, but does this
>>>  choice serve as a class marker in other parts of the country too?
>>>
>>>  Herb