childhood rhymes

[Laurence Horn]

At 4:52 PM -0700 8/1/04, David Colburn wrote:
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>From: "Jesse Sheidlower" <jester at PANIX.COM>
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>Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 3:12 PM
>Subject: Re: childhood rhymes
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>>  >
>>  > Another peculiarity: RHUD gives the pronunciation of "spaldeen" with
>>  > last-syllable stress! Does this match the recollections of the list
>folks?
>>
>>  Yes, that's how _spaldeen_ is pronounced. And I must say that I
>>  am shocked, shocked that Dr. Lighter never heard the term in
>>  his time here! Perhaps he should have got out to Brooklyn more....
>>
>Spaldeen, stressed on the last syllable, is certainly how my stepfather
>always pronounced it too, when he would tell me about playing stickball in
>his youth. He grew up in Washington Heights in the 50's and 60's, so
>'spaldeen' apparently wasn't exclusively a Brooklyn pronunciation.

I overlapped with your father in the same neighborhood.  My formative
years were spent on Fort Washington Ave. (between Riverside Drive and
Broadway) at W. 163d St. from 1948 to 1957, and "spaldEEN" was
definitely pronounced that way.

As discussed some time ago on the list, in re NYC nostalgia, we also
played "salug(g)i", a game where you take something from some kid,
maybe a cap or a baseball glove, and toss it around among your
friends while calling "salug(g)i".  Game ends when the kid gives up
trying to get it back and starts crying.  It's sort of the New York
version of keep-away, the difference being in the contrast between

"Let's play{keep-away/#saluggi}--I'll be It".

--Larry, a player and a playee