"all stove up"-- "I feel so break-up"

[sagehen]

>On Jun 3, 2004, at 9:14 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
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>> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>> Subject:      Re: "all stove up"-- "I feel so break-up"
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>>> On Jun 1, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Dale Coye wrote:
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>>>> Poster:       Dale Coye <Dalecoye at AOL.COM>
>>>> Subject:      Re: "all stove up"-- "I feel so break-up"
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>>>> This reminds me of the Weavers' song-- not sure of the title but the
>>>> first
>>>> line is "We sailed on the ship John D."  --they sing "I feel so
>>>> break-up, I
>>>> wanna go home"   When I heard the Beach Boys version not so long ago
>>>> they changed
>>>> it to "I feel so broke up" which makes more sense to me-- almost in
>>>> the sense
>>>> we're talking about in "stove up"-- can anyone enlighten me on "feel
>>>> so
>>>> break-up?"  why break and not broke?
>>>>
>>>> DF Coye
>>>> The College of NJ
>>>
>>> "The Ship 'John B.'" is a folksong of Caribbean origin - Jamaican, I
>>> think, but maybe not - and uses some form of Caribbean English. Is it
>>> true that the Beach Boys sing "broke up"? I've always heard it as
>>> "break up." My mistake, I guess.
>>>
>>> -Wilson Gray
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>> It's actually "The Sloop John B." rather than "The Ship".  I was
>> pretty sure that the standard Beach Boys' recording of the song,
>> presumably adapted by Brian Wilson, did indeed have it "I feel so
>> break up", not "broke up", but a google search confirms Dale's
>> memory, not Wilson's and mine.  I'm puzzled, but resigned.   Maybe
>> they actually sang and recorded it both ways on different occasions?
>>
>> Larry
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>Re: "sloop" vs. "ship." Quite so. It is indeed "sloop" and I knew that.
>I should have proofread the post before I sent it. My bad. Re: "break
>up" vs. "broke up."
>"Break up" is my story and I'm sticking to it.
>
>-Wilson Gray
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"Break up" is indeed the Weavers' version. The Weavers' Songbook gives the
info: "Words & music adapted by Lee Hays from a collection by Carl
Sandburg."
I haven't heard the Beach Boys version.
A. Murie


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N. Bangor NY
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