Upstate/downstate
David Bowie
db.list at PMPKN.NET
Thu Mar 4 13:00:08 UTC 2004
From: "Peter A. McGraw" <pmcgraw at LINFIELD.EDU>
<snip>
: Until I heard about Chicago and upstate/downstate Illinois, I had
: heard "upstate" only in connection with NY. So there's always a
: first time, but I've never heard the term used in connection with any
: western state, and I assume it's an eastern usage--i.e., east of the
: Mississippi...
Possibly a northeastern usage, at that.
I'm from Maryland, where there *is* no north (people hail from the Eastern
Shore, Western Maryland, Southern Maryland, or Central Maryland, with the
latter sometimes subdivided into the DC Area and Central Maryland).
I don't recall ever hearing an upstate/downstate contrast in West Virginia,
which clearly has a sliver pointing north.
Florida has North Florida and South Florida, with the Panhandle and Central
Florida filling out the rest of the state's geography.
South Carolina, IIRC, has an Upcountry/Lowcountry distinction, but that
seems to be elevation rather than north/south (which it is, but it's even
more east/west).
<snip>
I've also never heard Upstate/Downstate used for any of the Intermountain
West states.
David Bowie http://pmpkn.net/lx
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