R r

Patty Davies patty at CRUZIO.COM
Fri Oct 1 16:38:30 UTC 2004


I just *love* starting my day laughing a whole bunch

Patty :)

At 06:31 PM 9/30/04, you wrote:
>Yes, I say [ar]. I say [ar ei]. [ar ei dgi dgi...] Aw, you get  the idea.
>
>JL
>
>Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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>On Sep 30, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > Like my Southern students, I say "R."
> >
> > I say "R-A."
> >
> > R-A-G-G-M-O-P-P
> >
> > RAGGMOPP!!!!
> >
> > Doo-doo-doo-DAH-dee-ah-dah!!!!
> >
> > Sorry. It just came over me. (But I've never heard "arra.")
> >
> > JL
>
>"RaggMopp" by the Ames Brothers was just about my most favoritest
>record, when I was in the eighth grade. If I'd had an independent
>income (parental attitude: "Why buy the record when you can hear the
>song for free?"), I would have bought me a copy.
>
>When you say that you say "R," do you mean that you say [a:], like the
>Brits, or that you say [ar], like standard American-English speakers? I
>assume that it's the latter.
>
>-Wilson
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> > "Rachel E. Shuttlesworth" wrote:
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> > I heard this pronunciation from several of my BE-speaking middle school
> > teachers (probably in their 70s now), natives of Alabama.
> > Rachel
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> > Wilson Gray wrote:
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> >> As a child, I learned the name of the letter "R r" as [ar@]. (All of
> >> the other letters had the local version of their standard names.) This
> >> might be spelled "orra" (or "arra"?). I once heard the late Senator
> >> Edward Brooke (R) of Massachusetts, who was a native of Virginia,
> >> pronounce the call-letters of a radio station, WROR, as
> >> "dubya-orra-oh-orra." I've been wondering, given that a native Texan
> >> and a native Virginian both used this pronunciation, whether this
> >> usage
> >> is pan-Southern or whether the fact that we both used it was mere
> >> coincidence or, perhaps, a feature only of BE. How say ye, fellow
> >> Southrons?
> >>
> >> -Wilson Gray
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