Follow the Drinking Gourd song

Wilson Gray wilson.gray at RCN.COM
Fri Oct 15 14:51:12 UTC 2004


FWIW, drinking gourds were still being made and used by black Texans
well into the late 'Forties, at least. (I never actually lived in Texas
after 1949.) My family, upper-middle class by local black standards,
used them only as decoration. We had regular, enameled-metal,
store-bought dippers for drinking, etc. And we always referred to the
constellation as the "Big Dipper." IMO, the resemblance between a
drinking gourd, which looks (very) roughly like a lightbulb, and the
Big Dipper is not obvious. Of course, a different genus or species may
have been used elsewhere.

-Wilson Gray

On Oct 15, 2004, at 9:03 AM, Joel Bresler wrote:

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> At 11:59 PM 10/14/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>> On Oct 14, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>> ISTR that Harold Courlander expressed some skepticism about the
>>> genuineness song in his 1963 book
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> "Negro Folk Music USA."
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> Hi, Jonathan and all.
>
> Please note that Courlander was commenting on the Lee Hays
> "reconstruction"
> of the song (first published in 1947 and first recorded in 1951), NOT
> the
> Parks original. I wish I knew what Courlander made of the H.B. Parks
> version, if he knew it at all!
>
> I would be very grateful for early African-American references to "the
> drinking gourd" as a synonym for the Big Dipper/Ursa Major, etc. I
> didn't
> find it in "Born in Slavery: Slave Narratives from the Federal Writers'
> Project, 1936-1938" at http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/mesnquery.html nor
> in
> "Slave testimony : two centuries of letters, speeches, interviews and
> autobiographies", edited by John W. Blassingame, but clearly, there are
> mountains of other materials out there.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joel
>
>
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> Joel Bresler
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