'sup?

[Dennis R. Preston]

Let's lay off /hw/ as AAVE unless we add some regional provisos.

dInIs



>On Oct 19, 2004, at 5:22 PM, Beverly Flanigan wrote:
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>>Poster:       Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OHIOU.EDU>
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>>At 05:02 PM 10/19/2004, you wrote:
>>>On Oct 19, 2004, at 3:43 PM, William Stone wrote:
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>>>>Poster:       William Stone <W-Stone at NEIU.EDU>
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>>>>In the northwest suburbs of Chicago, 'sup' is very much a Caucasian
>>>>teen greeting.  African-American teens all seem to use a flapped
>>>>'whatup'
>>>
>>>FWIW, on an episode of Law & Order, a black adult refers to a group of
>>>black teenagers as a group of "[hw^D^ps]," where "D" is the SPE symbol
>>>for flapped "t." Law & Order is set in the City, but who knows where
>>>the writers get their BE slang from from?
>>>
>>>-Wilson Gray
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>>With [hw] or my plain-vanilla [w]?  What city is L&O set in?
>
>With [hw], which is typical of BE. And the City is THE City. New York
>City. I personally don't care much for the place, but I gotta give it
>its props.
>
>-Wilson Gray
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>>   (Shows my
>>crime show ignorance!)


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