misnomer 'misconception'

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Oct 21 21:23:51 UTC 2004


"About ten years ago" sounds right to me, though it could be fifteen. I hear it constantly on news and talk shows. In fact, "misconception" seems no longer to be used on these programs.

Like "is is," it's now the norm, not the exception.

Note too that "substitute for" is now used generally for "replace with," as in "You can substitute the fries for a salad," meaning just the opposite of what you'd exspect.

JL

George Thompson <george.thompson at NYU.EDU> wrote:
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I remember noticing this once, used by a former colleague who moved on probably 10 years ago. For what it's worth, she was a black woman from Alabama, 35-40 at the time, with at least a MLS, possibly with a 2nd master's. I don't recall what idea it was that was a misnomer, though it was said in response to a half-joking (or fully joking) statement I had made.

GAT

George A. Thompson
Author of A Documentary History of "The African
Theatre", Northwestern Univ. Pr., 1998.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnold M. Zwicky"
Date: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:10 pm
Subject: misnomer 'misconception'

> Heard on KQED's Forum call-in show this morning (10/21/04), from the
> American Independent Party candidate for president:
> -----
> That's really a misnomer, Bob. Libertarians are really...
> -----
>
> This is "misnomer" '(popular) misconception, misunderstanding', a
> usagei've heard a few times before. Older usage manuals seem not
> to have
> noticed it; I did a quick survey of twenty or so of them. It does
> appear in Lovinger's Penguin Dictionary of American Usage and Style
> (2000):
> -----
> A guest on a TV interview show said that Henry Kissinger was born in
> the United States, not in Germany as many people thought. "It's a
> common misnomer," he said.
> -----
>
> It's not in Garner's first edition (A Dictionary of Modern American
> Usage (1998)), but makes it into the second (Garner's Modern English
> Usage (2003)), with several cites. Garner describes it as "a kind of
> misnomer based on a misconception".
>
> Googling on
> misnomer misconception
> provides quick a few perfectly standard uses of the two words in
> conjunction with one another, plus a fair number in which they're
> treated as (rough) synonyms:
> -----
> Law Offices of Anthony W. Hernandez (Webster TX)
>
> You, as railroad employees, are not covered by the various state
> compensation laws. This misnomer or misconception has worked to the
> disadvantage of many employees like yourself, by having the belief
> thatthey are cover by Workman's Compensation and that they will
> automatically recover benefits without showing more than merely having
> been injured on the job.
> (http://www.rrlawyer.com/rr/anthony_hernandez_fela.html)
> -----
>
> These are especially interesting. "Misconception" is pretty
> transparent semantically (once you pick out the right sense of
> "conceive"), but "misnomer" is not (unless you're a Latinist). So you
> can get the mistake sense of "misnomer" from context, without
> understanding that it refers to a very specific sort of mistake. You
> can also appreciate the fact that "misnomer" is not very frequent and
> seems to be rather technical or learne'd. Put those observations
> together and you've got "misnomer" or a high-style variant of
> "misconception".
>
> The mistake in all of this is misjudging the referential scope of
> "misnomer" from hearing it in context -- a common enough (and entirely
> understandable) sort of error that often results in semantic change.
> Then, of course, we have occurrences of the broad "misnomer" in formal
> contexts, which others can model in their own speech and writing.
>
> i'd guess that this one's gonna spread fast.
>
> arnold (zwicky at csli.stanford.edu)
>


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