"incorrect" possessive pronouns
Patti J. Kurtz
kurtpatt4 at NETSCAPE.NET
Fri Oct 22 00:38:01 UTC 2004
Thanks Arnold-- I'll do that-- and excuse the faux pas, but what does
MWDEU stand for, please?
Patti
zwicky at CSLI.STANFORD.EDU wrote:
>check out the sane and scholarly discussion of the issue in MWDEU,
>under "possessive with gerund" (where you will learn that the earliest
>commentators on NP+gerund constructions rejected the *possessive*
>versions, that Fowler insisted on the possessive, and that Jespersen
>wrote a tract against Fowler on this very issue). MWDEU also lists
>some cases where the possessive is virtually barred (Flannery O'Connor:
>...to find out what is responsible for my feet swelling), though they
>missed my favorite, the expletive pronoun "there", which (as David
>Perlmutter pointed out decades out) doesn't *have* a possessive, so you
>really have to say "He objected to there being no fishforks on the
>table".
>
>to think of the distinction as merely a choice between marking the
>subject of a gerund with a possessive/genitive (POSS-ing) or an
>accusative/unmarked form (ACC-ing) doesn't really do justice to the
>matter, though. as Rob Malouf argues in several places (see esp. his
>2000 book, Mixed Categories in the Hierarchical Lexicon), the two have
>different structures/functions; POSS-ing NPs are pretty much just NPs
>in their external syntax, but ACC-ing NPs act externally a lot like
>(nonfinite) clauses.
>
>arnold
>
>
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Straker - I don't know, something inside me I guess.
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