Green Day (was Speaking of "gay," etc.)

Wilson Gray wilson.gray at RCN.COM
Thu Sep 23 18:32:33 UTC 2004


On Sep 23, 2004, at 1:13 PM, Jeff Prucher wrote:

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>> On Sep 22, 2004, at 10:31 PM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
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>>> I think the main term for the described item is "rope"; I
>>> don't think _dookie chain_ is is what popularized _dookie_
>>> itself. The Green Day album seems more likely a candidate.
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>> But this raises (okay, I admit it: I did consider using "begs") a
>> couple of other questions. How did Green Day come to know "dookie"?
>> And
>> did they use it to mean "excrement"?
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> In response to your first question, it's probably impossible to know
> for sure,
> but considering that it seems to have been fairly wide-spread (reports
> from
> East Texas and the Pacific NW so far, and I knew it in Michigan in the
> 70s &
> 80s) it doesn't seem unlikely to me that three guys from the East Bay
> knew the
> term, too.  I always assumed they used it to mean excrement (they are
> a punk
> band after all) but I don't know for sure.
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> Jeff Prucher

Okay, I'll buy that. Sounds very reasonable. FWIW, I know Green Day
only by name, never having heard a single note of their music. Since
they're featured at the Apple Music Store this week, I think I'll check
them out.

-Wilson Gray

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