/bolth/ for both
Greg Pulliam
pulliam at IIT.EDU
Wed Apr 6 18:30:45 UTC 2005
Thanks for this. I take it /o/ is fronting toward the central vowel
as in "but"? And words like "cold" and "bolt" are resistant to this?
How do we account for "both" being disassociated with the fronted /o/
and associated with the back [o]--perhaps it just happens in emphatic
_both_?
Greg
>I haven't been following this thread so forgive me if this observation has
>been made already.
>I don't see how it could be related to the Northern Cities Shift which
>involves, mostly short vowels.
>A more plausible connection is with /o/ fronting which is common across the
>Midlands (and elsewhere). Importantly /o/ is generally resistent to fronting
>when it appears before /l/. So the back [o] allophone comes to be associated
>with /ol/ context and thus an /l/ is inserted unetymologically.
>I think J. Ohala has written on this phenomenon.
>
>
>On 4/6/05 12:14 PM, "Greg Pulliam" <pulliam at IIT.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Maybe the /bolth/ pronunciation is related to the northern cities
>> shift? A movement (in just this word or a few words right now) of
>> the /o/ vowel slightly back or down, the result of which more sounds
>> like, than actually is, /bolth/.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>> I've never heard "bolth" or "polm"
>>>
>>> I have always pronounced the "l" in "almond", even
>>> after having been corrected. Doesn't the voice in the
>>> TV ads for Almond Joy pronounce the "l"? (I haven't
>>> heard an ad for Almond Joy in a long, long time.)
>>>
>>> FWIW, I say "nucular" more often than not, and I don't
>>> pronounce the "t" in "often" or "soften. (On Wheel of
>>> Fortune a while back, a woman had part of the word
>>> "soften" on the board as part of a phrase - something
>>> like "**ften" - and when she correctly completed the
>>> phrase she pronounced the "t", followed by a look of
>>> confusion or puzzlement on her face as she realized
>>> what she'd said.)
>>>
>>> --- Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>>>> FWIW, never heard "bolth" or "polm" round here - or
>>>> anywhere else. "Almond" pronounced with all the
>>>> letters, yes; also in NYC in the '50s.
>>>
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